Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez Says Terence Crawford, Teofimo Lopez, Naoya Inoue Top His P4P List

[joseph5620]

Andrade reminds me of William Joppy, remember him? (not his fighting style obviously) Remember how everyone was saying he was going to KO Trinidad, how he going to be too much for Tito? All based off the eyeball test and him beating a 60 year old Duran. And what happened? Tito blasts him in what, 4-5 rounds?

Andrade/Canelo would be similar.

Everything you said about Andrade is based off him fighting bums and Martirosyan some 10 years ago.

Everybody wasn't saying that. Stop lying.


There are no similarities between Joppy/Trinidad and Andrade/Canelo.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Isn't he fighting "something different" yet again this Saturday?

Different style, but Billy Hoe is nothing, we've seen him get gift decisions against complete bums, barely beat Chris Eubank who couldn't make it at 168, lost 5 rounds to Willie Monroe Junior.

[damned1974]

Different style, but Billy Hoe is nothing, we've seen him get gift decisions against complete bums, barely beat Chris Eubank who couldn't make it at 168, lost 5 rounds to Willie Monroe Junior.

You keep moving goal-posts. You say Canelo won't fight a different style, in the meantime the guys you mention won't fight eachother to force a fight with Canelo. Maybe you should get on their case.I mean, look at Canelo's resume-he has fought damn near every style out there.

Let's be real-a lot of fighters have had close fights that went their way. Saunders is a difficult fighter when switched on. I don't hear Charlos calling him out either, nor are they calling out Smith who Canelo just mopped the floor with. Hell, they aren't fighting Andrade, GGG or Jacobs either. Start calling them out on this and quit pretending like they are the saviors of their division by struggling with the semi-retired Korobovs and other dudes who aren't up to par.

[_Rexy_]

Well I wouldn't call him a "jap bum", but he really hasn't fought anybody.

That's only true if you don't follow the lower weight classes. He's 8-0 against current or former champs, making almost half his resume current or former world champions.

to put that into perspective, Errol Spence is 6-0 against Current or Former champs. Jermall Charlo is 3-0 against Current or Former Champs. Jose Ramirez is 2-0 against Current or Former Champs and Demetrius Andrade is 1-0 against Current or Former Champs.

[Butt stuff]

Lol basically “get rekd Spence”

[Oldskoolg]

Seems that way, he is definitely a talented fighter and one of the best in the sport, but since his loss to Lara him and his team have carefully handpicked opponents at the right time to make him look as good as possible, somehow miraculously gets the benefit of the doubt in every close fight, and you're not allowed to call that out? I don't mind most but there's this one guy on here who was really bad, but he got banned for making some racial slur at another guy.

There’s an extensive collection of 4/8chan style incels on here who frequently use racial insults. I just block them, there’s just no need to lower oneself to the level of alt right knob skinners who spend all their time fuming at YouTube channels....

[damned1974]

6 years ago I mean. Big Charlo won his belt fall of 2015, and then Canelo chose to fight Khan and Liam Smith instead. Little Charlo won it the next year.

Andrade already was a champ and even went on youtube and called Canelo a ***** and a hoe to try and get a fight with him. But again he fought James Kirkland instead.

OK, we'll move goal-posts again and concede to 6 years ago.....Who the hell were Charlos fighting 6 years ago????? Yet somehow you are going to convince people that they earned a shot at Canelo at that time? Come on....beating the likes of a retired K9 Bundrage somehow gets one to a Canelo fight now? LOL

[TernceBudCharlo]

Who were Charlos fighting 6 years ago????? Yet somehow you are going to convince people that they earned a shot at Canelo at that time? Come on....beating the likes of a retired K9 Bundrage somehow gets one to a Canelo fight now? LOL

But James Kirkland deserved it?

Y'all Caneo fans lose the right to say "But who has Andrade, Charlo fought" when Canelo picks opponents like Kirkland, Liam Smith, Fielding, Khan, alcoholic fat Kovalev, Chavez

[damned1974]

But James Kirkland deserved it?

Y'all Caneo fans lose the right to say "But who has Andrade, Charlo fought" when Canelo picks opponents like Kirkland, Liam Smith, Fielding, Khan, alcoholic fat Kovalev, Chavez

But we all gain the right to say "who has so and so fought" when the guy you are complaining about fought far better opposition, not just the selected ones you choose to conveniently illustrate.

First and foremost, I am a boxing fan, not exclusively a Canelo fan as you say. I have no specific allegiance with any one fighter, but in the context of this discussion I favor Canelo for many reasons.

[landotter]

I am not the biggest fan of comparing resumes of fighters at different weight levels. But there is no way to do these spectacular "P4P" lists without them. So for these conversations, I get it. As much as this thread has been gold, I am all for P4P lists even if they are so subjective that coin flips and dart throws are obviously involved.

Canelo Alvarez has moved up in divisions several times, but is comfortably fighting at 168. This Saturday, he fights Billy Jo Saunders. Now, BJS is in no one's top 10. I would venture not even close. He is, however, a respected boxer in any fair minded experts opinion. Now, he is a huge dog against the heavily favored Canelo, and no one except his fellow British stable mates think he has a chance.

And you know what? He instantly gives Alvarez a better opponent in less than 2 years campaigning at 164 than Crawford has had in his 4 years at 147. It is not even close. I recognize Crawford may not be at fault, but it changes the facts not even a little. Alvarez deserves to be #1 at this point over Crawford and I cannot see a valid argument for Crawford except "because I said so".