Where did this narrative that Usyk was some top tier heavyweight come from

[PRINCEKOOL]

Bellew is a good fighter he schooled usyk for the first 4 or 5 rounds if I'm not mistaken

But bellew is a fraction of the fighter haye was in his prime

..I believe prime haye vs prime bellew wouldn't be competitive at all

Haye should of retired after the first fight, people forget? He won the first 6 rounds before he was injured. He would of most likely won that fight on points, somewhat of a shut out 'If he did not get injured'. Haye just with his jab alone, and the respect and apprehension of his power was enough to deter Bellew.

And you are correct Bellew was beating or at-least making it extremely competitive before he began to get tired vs Usyk.

Even while injured a heavyweight Bellew struggled to put Haye away, I even still think Haye could of continued.

By the time the rematch came about, Haye was well gone physically 'He could not even do his normal training routines'.

Note: Bellew has even stated that he was dead at the weight, and really should of fought Uysk at heavyweight.

[Shrap]

How long ago did he beat Joyce again??
and handily ????

He went life and death with all 3 and looked extra fragile against a well past it chisora

He looked like a c level fighter against hunter and why even mention hunter he's a domestic level fighter

Life and death against Joyce?

He danced around him for 5 rounds. Joyce didn't win a single round and you couldn't even make an argument for him getting one.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Unified undisputed CW champion moves up to HW and some people are upset that people give him a chance to win a world title?

Dude is easily a top 10 guy and its yet to be seen if he is a top 3 guy.

Chisora just fought to A SD loss where he was very competitive with Joseph Parker who isn't quite a slouch hhimself. Andy Ruiz had a tougher than expected outing himself.

Usyk has a shot against any of those guys but nah, all yall pu$$ies hurt even though you pretend to be grown ass men.

[kafkod]

Haye was a very good CW, Usyk was a great CW. Haye had only average punch resistance and, like most explosive fighters, he couldn't fight at a high pace for long without gassing and needing breaks. Usyk's chin and phenomenal stamina put him on a higher level than Haye. Those qualities, along with his skill and ring IQ, make him a threat to any HW, IMO.

[deathofaclown]

He certainly hasn’t looked great since moving up

Due to the size of HW today, it’s a much different jump from CW to HW than it was 20 years ago.

he was a brilliant cruiserweight but he got manhandled at times by Chisora. His skill edged him the fight in the end but that’s against a guy with plenty of losses.

when you look at how Fury was able to bully Chisora, not just skill but physically too, you wonder how Usyk is going to handle an even bigger guy than Chisora.

his skill will still make him victorious over decent heavyweights though. But he has to improve on that Chisora fight if he’s going to compete with the bigger and better heavyweight.

[Robbie Barrett]

Haye was a very good CW, Usyk was a great CW. Haye had only average punch resistance and, like most explosive fighters, he couldn't fight at a high pace for long without gassing and needing breaks. Usyk's chin and phenomenal stamina put him on a higher level than Haye. Those qualities, along with his skill and ring IQ, make him a threat to any HW, IMO.

Nonsense. It's as clear as day and night who the better fighter is. Usyk is great because he beat some dog****e CW's? Who did they fight? Chisora has been in with everybody and Haye showed his talent. Usyk showed he's not on Haye's level. Usyk hasn't got the size of modern HW's or the talent of a Haye. Thank god he fought someone we can actually compare. Pretty easy to shoot down those mickey mouse CW accomplishments now. We can clearly see he's better at nothing.

[KingGilgamesh]

How long ago did he beat Joyce again??
and handily ????

He went life and death with all 3 and looked extra fragile against a well past it chisora

He looked like a c level fighter against hunter and why even mention hunter he's a domestic level fighter

The ****?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuASpmqoJVM

In what ****ing reality is that life and death?

And Hunter is a domestic level fighter???? LOL **** off.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Because he is elite fighter.

Don`t you tell me he is not better than Parker, lol.

[REDEEMER]

Usyk did better against Chisora then Parker did who does get lucky in fight decisions but saying that and Parker is still in the mix , Usyk continues to prove himself so writing him off is a mistake , you can say he’ll lose to A.J and Fury but doesn’t that go for everyone else ?

[Marchegiano]

I respect the undisputed, his CW resume hasn't aged well though.... but that's to be expected really....'cause it's CW and everyone worth a damn leaves that division.