Comments Thread For: Hearn on Fury-Joshua: Lawyers For Both Sides Reviewing Site Fee Contract

[paulf]

I hate Arum as much as most red blooded boxing fans! But I have to ask: Why would greedy Bob be motivated that this fight NOT happen? What does that do for him, for Fury? If Arum is concerned about the arbitration, perhaps he cannot disclose this concern... But we would have to then assume that arbitration proceedings are a mystery with no clue as to the relative merits each party (Wilder/ Fury) has in the proceedings. Arum must have some understanding about the possibilities of a ruling, and if they looked awful, why would he proceed? perhaps With the "out" if hearn's came through, he could then close the fight down? ...Maybe.

Arum might be motivated to be the "bad cop" to hearn's "good cop" as hearns hinted at that possibility when he said "Bob is just applying pressure."

Arum does screw fights up for his own purposes. No doubt. But in this scenario its hard to see him benefitting from preventing this fight. If these guys do decide to take a tune up before this fight it is risky... Wilder has the potential to end a fight with one punch, and AJ is not bulletproof. Either loss would take a lot of money off the table for greedy bob.

It would be nice to know more about arbitration and how it could affect the outcome of this fight... But there is no compelling reason to think Arum, who knows the most about the proceedings in fury's camp, knows something that is terminal to having this fight proceed.

Some have said Fury would prefer a tune up and will sabatoge this fight. Really? With a rematch clause, and that much money on the table? Would you do that if you were fury?

Yeah this the right way to look at it, IMO. We all know Arum's a snake..... but why the hell would he not want to cash out Fury in one of the biggest fights in boxing history? Fury is a nutcase that could implode any minute, he's not a cash-cow that can be milked for a decade+ like Pacquiao. Arum and Todd know this.

I think a lot of people don't really understand this arbitration: when it comes to two businesses taking things to arbitration, the arbitrator's job isn't simply to review the contracts and interpret the contract back to both parties, declaring who is right and who is wrong. Arbitration is about resolving the issue by presenting what's fair to both parties to avoid years of costly litigation.

What I'm saying here is: an arbitrator could absolutely look at the case and say "Okay, the contract clearly expired, but it wasn't possible to make the fight during the original window without a crowd and still make money due to the pandemic. So I'm ruling that you need to fight Wilder or work out a compensation for him to step aside."

My source here is that I worked in contracts for years and saw plenty of situations go to arbitration and court.

[champion4ever]

If it turns out to be BS and no contracts were sent or recieved I will owe you an apology. If the fight doesnt go ahead I won't. You called BS on contracts being sent, you said Hearn was lying.

Eddie Hearn has promised that the fight was going to happen in either the month of July or August of 2021. We are already in the month of May now. So if the fight doesn't happen by then, don't you believe that you still owe me an apology? Contracts don't necessarily guarantee a fight. Both sides have signed several contracts on this fight and yet there are still no dates or venues that have been announced.

[DaNeutral.]

Eddie Hearn has promised that the fight was going to happen in either the month of July or August of 2021. We are already in the month of May now. So if the fight doesn't happen by then, don't you believe that you still owe me an apology? Contracts don't necessarily guarantee a fight. Both sides have signed several contracts on this fight and yet there are still no dates or venues that have been announced.

Why the FKK would I wana give a cvnt like you an apology because a fight doesn't happen? Are you claiming Hearn is lying and doesn't want to get his fight made or are you saying it doesn't matter what Hearn is trying to get done if it doesn't happen it's all on him and I should apologise for it?

[REDEEMER]

No, what I told you repeatedly is that I never had the need to predict if the fight would happen and that I thought it was folly to do so, nice try laughing stock lol. Newsflash, we still do not know if the fight is happening. YOUR the one who has to predict things that you have no knowledge of, not me. Ha!

Again: Never said Arum was not a lyer, said he is motivated, as all parties are to act in a certain fashion. You are too simple minded. to you there has to be a good guy and bad guy... Like a four year old, hence the name: Redumber. Lol. I always have maintained Arum is a scumbag... does not mean he acts irrationaly during a negotiation, only that his self interest in paramount.

You are the laughing stock lol. anymore predictions genius? Ha!

You said it was su****ious activity , you said Ruiz was going to force A.J to fight where he wants these are things you predi, you claim you never talked about Ruiz contracts ,then I pulled up your own quotes ? Your a habitual liar Silly .

In the real world however Fury still says he’s fighting A.J and won’t be shocked if it’s anno after the Canelo fight in the ring maybe ?

I guess you couldn’t think of any lies telling how the fight doesn’t get made ? You and that other goon Shoulder are the fools .

Yes I predict things that have an actual basis to it unlike you who pretend “Considerations” and you’ve flip flopped so many times on what stance you take depending on what thread comes like a fish out of water you did it so much ,one minute I see you telling posters you hope the fight happens ,the next you the idiot tells me I don’t know what I’m talking about and says I better hope the fight happens ? You’re garbage pal .

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[billeau2]

You said it was su****ious activity , you said Ruiz was going to force A.J to fight where he wants these are things you predi, you claim you never talked about Ruiz contracts ,then I pulled up your own quotes ? Your a habitual liar Silly .

In the real world however Fury still says he’s fighting A.J and won’t be shocked if it’s anno after the Canelo fight in the ring maybe ?

I guess you couldn’t think of any lies telling how the fight doesn’t get made ? You and that other goon Shoulder are the fools .

Yes I predict things that have an actual basis to it unlike you who pretend “Considerations” and you’ve flip flopped so many times on what stance you take depending on what thread comes like a fish out of water you did it so much ,one minute I see you telling posters you hope the fight happens ,the next you the idiot tells me I don’t know what I’m talking about and says I better hope the fight happens ? You’re garbage pal .

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Ruiz? Lol what? Laughing stock you done lost your rascist mind... Lets see the posts. lets see what you pulled up rascist laughing stock, still waiting... Waiting for those links, those posts. I make predictions when I have a basis to make them... My time on the forum does not revolve around guessing at things to one up other posters... That eludes you because you are an idiot, redumber... the laughing stock, the village idiot Ha!

Im going to ask you again not to PM me. Stop putting words in my mouth simpleton... LOl, what an idiot.

[ShoulderRoll]

You and that other goon Shoulder are the fools .

Right.

You are so so sure that there's no way the fight doesn't happen next that you refused to accept a bet on it.

[KTFOKING]

Anyone else think they announce this fight during the broadcast of Saturday's event?

[REDEEMER]

Right.

You are so so sure that there's no way the fight doesn't happen next that you refused to accept a bet on it.

Your the one that didn’t accept ,. You made an excuse and when the fight was announced you lost the bet .

And like Silly Billy you’re another one that keeps telling me how dumb I am for thinking the fight happens next ,you have the IQ of a 6th grader .

[REDEEMER]

Ruiz? Lol what? Laughing stock you done lost your rascist mind... Lets see the posts. lets see what you pulled up rascist laughing stock, still waiting... Waiting for those links, those posts. I make predictions when I have a basis to make them... My time on the forum does not revolve around guessing at things to one up other posters... That eludes you because you are an idiot, redumber... the laughing stock, the village idiot Ha!

Im going to ask you again not to PM me. Stop putting words in my mouth simpleton... LOl, what an idiot.

All you did was made a fool of yourself claiming things you said you never did , I showed the entire forum .

To this day you refuse to accept the ban bet that’s why you want me to post the links now without any consequences when you also know the forum won’t ban you because I asked them to intervene here so you have to honor it when I post the links but they never did ,most likely you cried to them again ?


Either way you’re going to see how foolish it I was to start trolling me when the fight happens , not sure you know this but Hearn just shook hands with Fury telling him good luck against A.J , but some fool like you would still tell me it’s all speculation the same guy telling me about considerations and how Wilder can do this and that , stick to your goon friends on here your all the same .

[REDEEMER]

Anyone else think they announce this fight during the broadcast of Saturday's event?

Good chance , Hearn was hinting it .