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  • REDEEMER
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    #21
    Originally posted by billeau2
    I hate Arum as much as most red blooded boxing fans! But I have to ask: Why would greedy Bob be motivated that this fight NOT happen? What does that do for him, for Fury? If Arum is concerned about the arbitration, perhaps he cannot disclose this concern... But we would have to then assume that arbitration proceedings are a mystery with no clue as to the relative merits each party (Wilder/ Fury) has in the proceedings. Arum must have some understanding about the possibilities of a ruling, and if they looked awful, why would he proceed? perhaps With the "out" if hearn's came through, he could then close the fight down? ...Maybe.

    Arum might be motivated to be the "bad cop" to hearn's "good cop" as hearns hinted at that possibility when he said "Bob is just applying pressure."

    Arum does screw fights up for his own purposes. No doubt. But in this scenario its hard to see him benefitting from preventing this fight. If these guys do decide to take a tune up before this fight it is risky... Wilder has the potential to end a fight with one punch, and AJ is not bulletproof. Either loss would take a lot of money off the table for greedy bob.

    It would be nice to know more about arbitration and how it could affect the outcome of this fight... But there is no compelling reason to think Arum, who knows the most about the proceedings in fury's camp, knows something that is terminal to having this fight proceed.

    Some have said Fury would prefer a tune up and will sabatoge this fight. Really? With a rematch clause, and that much money on the table? Would you do that if you were fury?
    Once again Silly Billy exposing yourself, you were the one telling me doubts the fight happens , then when another thread with news supports the fight is happening you jump ship , then when a thread says it’s not happening you troll me and mock that I’m an idiot for suggesting it’s happening.

    oh Silly Billy your all over the place now Arum knows what he’s doing and not lying , are you sure you’re not shoulder roll ? Lol

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    Last edited by REDEEMER; 05-03-2021, 12:05 AM.

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    • Bob Haymon
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      #22
      Originally posted by Detroit29


      Uh yes he can. If the arbitrator rules that Fury has to fight Wilder then that's what must happen. Fury is pouring tons of cash on this arbitration trying to weasel out a third fight. Arum flew to the mediation to try to work something out. If Arum was that confident about the arbitration being nothing, then why is he trying to work something out? Hearn never had any deals and the arbitration is real. Eddie and Arum are con artists and they fooled everyone but Wilder fans.
      You can't force somebody to fight someone against their will. At the very worst they will have to pay Wilder money if they broke the agreement they had.

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      • QballLobo
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        #23
        Originally posted by Detroit29


        Uh yes he can. If the arbitrator rules that Fury has to fight Wilder then that's what must happen. Fury is pouring tons of cash on this arbitration trying to weasel out a third fight. Arum flew to the mediation to try to work something out. If Arum was that confident about the arbitration being nothing, then why is he trying to work something out? Hearn never had any deals and the arbitration is real. Eddie and Arum are con artists and they fooled everyone but Wilder fans.
        100% wrong. If they felt they had a case to enforce the contract they would have gone to a judge and argued their case.
        You go to arbitration when you know you’ll likely lose in court but feel you can get a lower ruling for some compensation. At best Wilder will get a small sum but the facts aren’t on his side. The clause had an expiration date and there was no communication from his side to make the fight.
        Whatever happens when AJ/Fury has 0 to do with that arbitration. In fact if that was the case it would have been illegal for Hearn and DAZN to enter into a contract with another one binding. They know and Arum knows it will amount to very little.
        Funny to see Wilder fans clinging to this. Why weren’t they crying for their guy to push for the trilogy when the clause was active?

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        • Fists_of_Fury
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          #24
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.

          So you are 100% writing off Eddie Hearn saying contracts have been sent, you are 100% writing off Frank Warren confirming contracts have been recieved and you are calling the whole thing BS based on body language?

          Sounds to me that you wish it to not be true and you wish it not to happen. I think you hate the fact the PBC or Wilder are not involved in this biggest fight in the sport and so all you want to do is be salty and negative about it.
          PBC is involved in Mayweather vs Logan Paul. That's the biggest fight in the sport.

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          • DaNeutral.
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            #25
            Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury

            PBC is involved in Mayweather vs Logan Paul. That's the biggest fight in the sport.
            PBC trying to latch on to that one and it is a bit of a Stretch to even class that along a real undisputed fight.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #26
              I didn't know the forum was full of legal experts.

              Or is it?

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #27
                Originally posted by QballLobo

                100% wrong. If they felt they had a case to enforce the contract they would have gone to a judge and argued their case.
                You go to arbitration when you know you’ll likely lose in court but feel you can get a lower ruling for some compensation.
                Not if they signed an arbitration agreement. In which case they all gave up their right to bring claims to court.

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                • champion4ever
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DaNeutral.

                  So you are 100% writing off Eddie Hearn saying contracts have been sent, you are 100% writing off Frank Warren confirming contracts have been recieved and you are calling the whole thing BS based on body language?

                  Sounds to me that you wish it to not be true and you wish it not to happen. I think you hate the fact the PBC or Wilder are not involved in this biggest fight in the sport and so all you want to do is be salty and negative about it.
                  Look at here man! I don't have a dog in this race Ok. I am not a Brit. So I couldn't care one way or the other if this fight gets made or not. For I am neither a fan of Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury but at the same time, I do acknowledge that this match up is good for the entire sport of boxing if it does get made rather than it's not being made. However, if what you are saying is true that the contracts have been received; Then you can totally disregard my earlier comments about the fight being pure B.S. However, if I am inevitably proven to be right. Then I hope that you would be man enough to admit that you owe me an apology.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER

                    Once again Silly Billy exposing yourself, you were the one telling me doubts the fight happens , then when another thread with news supports the fight is happening you jump ship , then when a thread says it’s not happening you troll me and mock that I’m an idiot for suggesting it’s happening.

                    oh Silly Billy your all over the place now Arum knows what he’s doing and not lying , are you sure you’re not shoulder roll ? Lol

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                    No, what I told you repeatedly is that I never had the need to predict if the fight would happen and that I thought it was folly to do so, nice try laughing stock lol. Newsflash, we still do not know if the fight is happening. YOUR the one who has to predict things that you have no knowledge of, not me. Ha!

                    Again: Never said Arum was not a lyer, said he is motivated, as all parties are to act in a certain fashion. You are too simple minded. to you there has to be a good guy and bad guy... Like a four year old, hence the name: Redumber. Lol. I always have maintained Arum is a scumbag... does not mean he acts irrationaly during a negotiation, only that his self interest in paramount.

                    You are the laughing stock lol. anymore predictions genius? Ha!

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                    • DaNeutral.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      Look at here man! I don't have a dog in this race Ok. I am not a Brit. So I couldn't care one way or the other if this fight gets made or not. For I am neither a fan of Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury but at the same time, I do acknowledge that this match up is good for the entire sport of boxing if it does get made rather than it's not being made. However, if what you are saying is true that the contracts have been received; Then you can totally disregard my earlier comments about the fight being pure B.S. However, if I am inevitably proven to be right. Then I hope that you would be man enough to admit that you owe me an apology.
                      If it turns out to be BS and no contracts were sent or recieved I will owe you an apology. If the fight doesnt go ahead I won't. You called BS on contracts being sent, you said Hearn was lying.

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