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Canelo Alvarez Explains Testing Positive For Clenbuterol in Graham Bensinger Interview! Believe Him?

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  • #81
    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

    Again, In theory, the problem isn’t Canelo’s 2018 test. The real question is why would WADA amend their previous skepticism regarding Clenbuterol? If the whole narrative is
    about cheating then this would be the go to drug of all drugs because it makes absolutely no sense for WADA to amend it. It’s not about Canelo at all. The WADA list applies the rule for all sports. It means every athlete would exploit the new rule. You think WADA wouldn’t have thought of that?
    No it's not to do with Canelo specifically - where did I ever say that? I've explained over and over ad nauseam that it's because they can't prove that positive tests weren't due to meat contamination with any degree of certainty where meat contamination is a problem. It's nothing to do with downgrading Clenbuterol or admitting it ain't punishable PED since the threshold only applies to those countries where contamnination is a reasonable possibility. If they were saying Clenbuterol wasn't really a big deal they would just apply the threshold to all countries wouldn't they, or deschedule it altogether?

    All they've done is amend their rules to avoid the very real possibility of peanalising the innocent in those countries where meat contamination is an issue... And yes, of course, for the time being there is a very real loophole for Chinese, Guatamalan and Mexican athletes in all sports, but WADA don't have much option until a workable discriminatory test comes online. It's either use this ruling or risk punishing those who may have accidentally consumed contaminated meat. It's a judgement call and they opted to err on the side of protecting the innocent. I've explained this to you maybe a dozen times over the last few years... which bit ain't you getting?

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    • #82
      Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

      Well, that solves that
      Ring Magazine stripped him still, because hair follicle tests don't work properly on redheads.

      https://www.news24.com/health24/life...esses-20120721

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

        No it's not to do with Canelo specifically - where did I ever say that? I've explained over and over ad nauseam that it's because they can't prove that positive tests weren't due to meat contamination with any degree of certainty where meat contamination is a problem. It's nothing to do with downgrading Clenbuterol or admitting it ain't punishable PED since the threshold only applies to those countries where contamnination is a reasonable possibility. If they were saying Clenbuterol wasn't really a big deal they would just apply the threshold to all countries wouldn't they, or deschedule it altogether?

        All they've done is amend their rules to avoid the very real possibility of peanalising the innocent in those countries where meat contamination is an issue... And yes, of course, for the time being there is a very real loophole for Chinese, Guatamalan and Mexican athletes in all sports, but WADA don't have much option until a workable discriminatory test comes online. It's either use this ruling or risk punishing those who may have accidentally consumed contaminated meat. It's a judgement call and they opted to err on the side of protecting the innocent. I've explained this to you maybe a dozen times over the last few years... which bit ain't you getting?
        So if Canelo has been having nano traces in every fight even after the new ********* is he cheating?

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        • #84
          It is a ban substance for a reason. Now after all this time he says this, they really took time to get the story right. A professional at his level and resources should had never eaten tainted meat because it was a known problem.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post
            At least LDBC fans make it tribal and more believable. The LDBC rarely talk about scorecards like the GgG diehards. They simply say Canelo is white privileged but say he’s top 2 behind Crawford


            You really think GGG fans are weirdos because they complained about biased scorecards in his fights with Canelo, rather than white privilege?

            That says a lot about you, pal.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury View Post

              Bans for cheats are good for the sport also
              So are fair scorecards.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by strykr619 View Post

                Using meat as an excuse when he is living in San Diego? He trains in SD, goes to mexico to eat carne when he KNOWS mexican beef uses clen? So your telling me Canelo is ****ING MORON then is what your saying?

                More like he was using Clen for rapid weight loss because he blows up when he is training and needs the rapid weight loss (which is what Clen is used for primarily by hollywood/ bodybuilder types).
                As someone who lived in SD when I was younger, and who understands the Mexican food of the area, the bold is highly likely.

                Even if you just ate Mexican in San Diego, I mean I once was as slim as Snoop Dogg eating it every day after P. E.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

                  No it's not to do with Canelo specifically - where did I ever say that? I've explained over and over ad nauseam that it's because they can't prove that positive tests weren't due to meat contamination with any degree of certainty where meat contamination is a problem. It's nothing to do with downgrading Clenbuterol or admitting it ain't punishable PED since the threshold only applies to those countries where contamnination is a reasonable possibility. If they were saying Clenbuterol wasn't really a big deal they would just apply the threshold to all countries wouldn't they, or deschedule it altogether?

                  All they've done is amend their rules to avoid the very real possibility of peanalising the innocent in those countries where meat contamination is an issue... And yes, of course, for the time being there is a very real loophole for Chinese, Guatamalan and Mexican athletes in all sports, but WADA don't have much option until a workable discriminatory test comes online. It's either use this ruling or risk punishing those who may have accidentally consumed contaminated meat. It's a judgement call and they opted to err on the side of protecting the innocent. I've explained this to you maybe a dozen times over the last few years... which bit ain't you getting?
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                  • #89
                    a guy on fighthype described his past experiences with clenbuterol in boxing

                    http://www.fighthype.com/news/article32541.html

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

                      Oh the mismatches or clen question? Personally I'd say mismatches but that doesn't mean that using drugs to gain an advantage is somehow OK. I'm not getting your point. Both are bad and wrong and both should be addressed. These ain't either / or issues.
                      You're a smart man
                      Tell me you feel amounts so small it's almost not worth mentioning is more harmful to the sport than a 50-1 dog ?

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