Canelo Alvarez Explains Testing Positive For Clenbuterol in Graham Bensinger Interview! Believe Him?

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  • BodyBagz
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    #91
    Originally posted by _Rexy_

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    • TonyGe
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      #92
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

      False. All boxers exploit abusive weight cutting to stay at particular weights. Canelo didn’t invent that. You think Usyk or a Gassiev just casually walk around below 200lbs? That’s impossible even when they campaigned at Cruiser. This is to say that every boxer who is destined to be a high profile fighter is on sone thing. Jermall Charlo and Andrade walk aroun 190lbs and are being criticized for abusing their 160 weigh ins.

      Canelo is the only high profile boxer in his comfort weight class filled out. Jarred Hurd, Jermall Charlo, Andrade, still draining and copying formulas that shouldn’t be applied to 30year olds or 40year olds like GGG
      No it's true. Canelo didn't fight at 154 because he had trouble making weight. Now it's obvious that he is a naturally heavy guy for his height. He is fighting at 168 and looks physically good. Fighting at his natural weight has improved his stamina. Canelo failed his test because he was using Clen to cut weight. Thousands of Mexican boxers have passed their drug tests but Canelo was one of the few who failed. He cheated he got caught and it's a black mark in his career. Even the interviewer appeared not to believe him. Hey if you think he's clean that's your peroggative. I'm sure he got caught out.

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        #93
        Originally posted by BodyBagz







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        Yes? The magazine owned by Canelos promoter dropped him from their rankings because he failed a drug test. Strong rebuttal

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          #94
          Gotta love these ****smoking Canelo groupies

          "PED'S ARE TERRIBLE! THEY SHOLD BE OUT OF THE SPORT!!"
          *Canelo fails two tests*
          "well, if we are going to discuss how terrible PED's are, we must define what is actually a PED. Something that helps you build muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? Nah that wouldn't enhance any performance"

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            #95
            If you aren't on something you aren't trying hard enough.

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              #96
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              You're a smart man
              Tell me you feel amounts so small it's almost not worth mentioning is more harmful to the sport than a 50-1 dog ?
              Once again you're trying to make it an either / or... both are bad and both issues should be tackled.

              WRT the 'tiny amount' of Clen though, that's precisely the problem here... it's impossible to tell from the 'tiny amount' detected in urine how much was originally taken. Inject a bucketful of Clen and a month later all that will be left in your urine will be a trace amount (halving roughly every 35 hours), eat a tainted steak and 2 days later you'll will test for a similar trace amount. There is at this time no known way of establishing for sure which it was.

              I still agree that 50/1 dogs are more dangerous though, in fact I also find the common practice of severe weight cutting to be more dangerous... still doesn't make PEDing acceptable however.

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                #97
                Has he told where he bought the tainted meat and has he shown the receipts?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba

                  Once again you're trying to make it an either / or... both are bad and both issues should be tackled.

                  WRT the 'tiny amount' of Clen though, that's precisely the problem here... it's impossible to tell from the 'tiny amount' detected in urine how much was originally taken. Inject a bucketful of Clen and a month later all that will be left in your urine will be a trace amount (halving roughly every 35 hours), eat a tainted steak and 2 days later you'll will test for a similar trace amount. There is at this time no known way of establishing for sure which it was.

                  I still agree that 50/1 dogs are more dangerous though, in fact I also find the common practice of severe weight cutting to be more dangerous... still doesn't make PEDing acceptable however.
                  Only those who struggle with themselves find either or a tough pill to swallow

                  If you feel what Nelo did was more harmful to the sport, well that's your choice

                  If not, well that's your choice.

                  It ain't hard

                  I say mismatches are 100000000x more harmful to the sport
                  I trust test takers and their findings
                  I highly doubt a boxer who used Clen hurt his opponent anymore than the usual damage that occurs during a fight.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_

                    Yes? The magazine owned by Canelos promoter dropped him from their rankings because he failed a drug test. Strong rebuttal
                    It was such a blow to Nelo's career

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz

                      Only those who struggle with themselves find either or a tough pill to swallow

                      If you feel what Nelo did was more harmful to the sport, well that's your choice

                      If not, well that's your choice.

                      It ain't hard

                      I say mismatches are 100000000x more harmful to the sport
                      I trust test takers and their findings
                      I highly doubt a boxer who used Clen hurt his opponent anymore than the usual damage that occurs during a fight.
                      I still don't get what you're saying? Are you saying that because mismatches are bad we should ignore PED use? That makes no logical sense whatsoever.

                      And there's two issues at play here, both a safety issue (to both opponents and users of PEDs) and the issue of fair play. I personally don't believe PEDs make a huge difference to a fighter's ceiling, certainly they can't turn a sports Hall brawler into a championship level boxer... But at the margins where a 1 or 2 percent difference in stamina or strength can make the difference between winning a title and remaining a contender it can make a life changing difference to individual athletes and personally I think that is bad for the sport and also morally wrong.

                      It shouldnt effect your personal entertainment though, so if that's your only concern I guess I can understand how you might consider PEDs to be a non-issue.

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