Comments Thread For: Whyte: Fury, Wilder Get Too Much Credit For Their Padded, Cherry-Picked Records

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • KingGilgamesh
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Feb 2020
    • 1392
    • 524
    • 106
    • 8,713

    #71
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    Who throws combinations like A.J with power in explosive spurts with maintaining balance and is able to slip punches doing it ? Who do you think is preferable to watch other then that guy who holds 22 knockout wins in 25 fights ?

    Yea who wants to see that guy ?
    Wilder has an even wider margin of wins and even more impressive knockouts, by your metric I should laud that too. Lol you're such a clown. There are plenty of bum boxers with padded records.

    And Lol at power in "explosive spurts", even you can't deny Joshua's obvious stamina issues. I'll give you solid combination punching, but again, is Joshua a standout combination puncher? Not really. His shot selection is good and his balance is okay but these are things we can see in any solid prospect or even amateur with good pedigree. What is it about Joshua himself which delivers inspiring performances? At least with someone like Fury, his movement and footwork are genuinely kinda incredible for someone of his size. He's about the only big heavyweight who actually uses his head.

    The "22 knockout wins over 25 fights" is EXACTLY my point. Thats not a reason to watch. You people don't legit know why you're fans. You're just on the bandwagon. If he falls off tomorrow, you guys will be gone like the wind.

    Comment

    • REDEEMER
      Banned
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Oct 2018
      • 11820
      • 1,336
      • 1,008
      • 153,574

      #72
      Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

      Wilder has an even wider margin of wins and even more impressive knockouts, by your metric I should laud that too. Lol you're such a clown. There are plenty of bum boxers with padded records.

      And Lol at power in "explosive spurts", even you can't deny Joshua's obvious stamina issues. I'll give you solid combination punching, but again, is Joshua a standout combination puncher? Not really. His shot selection is good and his balance is okay but these are things we can see in any solid prospect or even amateur with good pedigree. What is it about Joshua himself which delivers inspiring performances? At least with someone like Fury, his movement and footwork are genuinely kinda incredible for someone of his size. He's about the only big heavyweight who actually uses his head.

      The "22 knockout wins over 25 fights" is EXACTLY my point. Thats not a reason to watch. You people don't legit know why you're fans. You're just on the bandwagon. If he falls off tomorrow, you guys will be gone like the wind.
      So you want to talk about skills concerning A.J then bring up Wilder ? Ha

      Wilder has not left as many men on the floor then A.J has ,many Wilder fights are stopped on the feet . Sure you can more impressive knock wins before he was a champion but look who he was fighting .


      You still didn’t answer who would you rather watch then A.J ? If it’s Fury then it’s a guy who clowns around in the ring and point fights in comparison ,and no people watch heavyweight boxing for knockouts ,you get skill and that with A.J .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-12-2021, 11:39 AM.

      Comment

      • TMLT87
        Undisputed Champion
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Jan 2020
        • 6327
        • 1,861
        • 918
        • 27,292

        #73
        Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

        Not fussed. As I keep saying, I legit do think Joshua and Matchroom very much cater to the kind of loser sentiment of English football fans. I don't think either of them represent boxing greatness. Other than drawing power, we can hardly convince ourselves that someone like Joshua has anything on the likes of Canelo when it comes to sheer competitive grit.

        If I legit asked you what about their boxing ability makes either Whyte or Joshua watchable, neither of you could answer the question. Joshua is just the latest British boxer that much of the public gets behind but isn't exactly sure why. Same with Whyte.
        Nationalism and marketability play a big part in AJs appeal but still, you're setting the bar unfairly high if hes got to be comparable to Canelo to be worth watching. Hes obviously not an ATG skill wise, but hes a very solid HW with a good combination of size, power and skill, and he has consistently walked the walk against top 10 level opposition with relatively little padding involved. Its not like theres much better than him at HW in this era either.

        As for Whyte, he can be mildly entertaining to watch simply because hes so vulnerable and sloppy and doesnt mind having a scrap.

        Comment

        • landotter
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Sep 2017
          • 4336
          • 1,437
          • 5,975
          • 33,265

          #74
          Originally posted by Toffee
          Whyte is dead right.

          Now that doesn't mean Whyte is better than either of them, but he's 100% right about their records.

          A lot to be proven.
          I see no reason to repost something of my own when you said exactly what I think. Whyte has a better record than Fury or Wilder. I think it is only when Fury's name gets brought up people lose all level headness (not sure if "headness" is even a word... but I like it).

          Comment

          • Redgloveman
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jan 2018
            • 1028
            • 92
            • 11
            • 21,228

            #75
            Originally posted by _Rexy_

            He was always a hype job, from his pro debut. I'm suspecting you actually are Audley Harrison.
            You can’t be a hype job if there is no hype about you whatsoever, can you?

            There was no hype for Audley Harrison in 2013. So did Wilder beat a hype job?... no

            Having once been something doesn’t necessarily mean you are still that thing... by your logic Audley Harrison isn’t just a hype job he’s a foetus.
            Last edited by Redgloveman; 04-12-2021, 12:44 PM.

            Comment

            • LeOoze
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Sep 2020
              • 2371
              • 623
              • 602
              • 10,833

              #76
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              Fury ''beating'' Wlad is on par with Leon beating Ali.

              And it's nice to know you NOW feel Wilder was a legit HW champ.

              Most Fury fans have since changed their opinion of DW lately
              Fury fans gotta be some of the worst fans in boxing in a minute. I always thought DW was a tomato can crusher, and Fury beating him doesn't make me think much highly of him.

              Comment

              • Ray*
                Be safe!!!
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Jul 2005
                • 44867
                • 1,654
                • 1,608
                • 558,890

                #77
                Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                Not fussed. As I keep saying.
                You said all of these to say nothing. Not going to read your post as you are a moron. Who gets triggered about post horse****.

                Comment

                • thetruthteller
                  Banned
                  Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 485
                  • 155
                  • 1
                  • 2,848

                  #78
                  Take Wilder and Klitschko off his resume and what do you have left? Add 0 title defenses and a steroid conviction and we shouldn't be talking about him as the best. We should be condemning him for conning the public.

                  Comment

                  • Jkp
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 4671
                    • 306
                    • 669
                    • 71,449

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Redgloveman

                    You can’t be a hype job if there is no hype about you whatsoever, can you?

                    There was no hype for Audley Harrison in 2013. So did Wilder beat a hype job?... no

                    Having once been something doesn’t necessarily mean you are still that thing... by your logic Audley Harrison isn’t just a hype job he’s a foetus.
                    Anyone with a pair of boxing gloves is hyped to death in the UK, David price and Dave Allen are ppv stars. Dubois and Joyce are the next Mohammed Ali over there.

                    A 1 win, winning streak means you deserve a title shot and up there with Tyson and AJ

                    Comment

                    • Willowthewisp
                      Contender
                      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 311
                      • 65
                      • 38
                      • 13,461

                      #80
                      And now a list of fighters who Dillian Whyte doesn't talk **** about:

                      1. Dillian Whyte
                      Here ends the list

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP