There is no one way to beat Floyd Mayweather.

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #21
    Originally posted by LarryX....
    Floyd whitewashed both cotto and canelo..not his fault they were not good enough
    That’s not how history works when contextualizing legends and ATG’s, all whom weren’t just remembered for their performances before 23 years of age.

    Floyd doesn’t even have many highlight shots of the Canelo fight from the span of 12 rounds. Floyd couldn’t even walk Pacquiao down. I saw more of Thurman at least risking forward with PAC.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

      That’s not how history works when contextualizing legends and ATG’s, all whom weren’t just remembered for their performances before 23 years of age.

      Floyd doesn’t even have many highlight shots of the Canelo fight from the span of 12 rounds. Floyd couldn’t even walk Pacquiao down. I saw more of Thurman at least risking forward with PAC.
      Yeah it is. When fighters dominate their opponent they very rarely rematch them especially in the modern era.

      Thurman fought Pacquaio when he was 4 years older and lost clearly

      Why would Floyd even walk Pacquaio down when that would obviously stylistically suit Pacquaio considerably?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

        That’s not how history works when contextualizing legends and ATG’s, all whom weren’t just remembered for their performances before 23 years of age.

        Floyd doesn’t even have many highlight shots of the Canelo fight from the span of 12 rounds. Floyd couldn’t even walk Pacquiao down. I saw more of Thurman at least risking forward with PAC.

        That’s not how it works, buddy. There were plenty of highlight shots against Canelo, you just chose to not remember and block them from your memory. Selective memory 101. Don’t worry, nothing you say can or will erase that schooling that he gave Canelo.

        The problem with a lot of y’all Mayweather critics is that y’all wanted him to lower his fighting abilities to that of his opponents. His biggest strength was his ability to nullify his opponent’s best weapons and shut them out completely. He simply was on a higher level of skills that his opponent’s best weapons weren’t enough to override his best weapons. Call it boring or whatever, he made them all look inferior and some of y’all still losing sleeps to this day.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #24
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

          That’s not how history works when contextualizing legends and ATG’s, all whom weren’t just remembered for their performances before 23 years of age.

          Floyd doesn’t even have many highlight shots of the Canelo fight from the span of 12 rounds. Floyd couldn’t even walk Pacquiao down. I saw more of Thurman at least risking forward with PAC.
          just stop man, seriously you are now bringing up Manny??? Floyd schooled Canelo easily at 36 years old

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            #25
            Originally posted by LarryX....
            Floyd whitewashed both cotto and canelo..not his fault they were not good enough
            I recall the Cotto fight being very competitive with Floyd being a little sharper and winning most of those competitive rounds but he was tested a bit and even bloodied by Cotto's jab

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              Leonard and Duran were 1-1 that’s why they had a third fight.

              Leonard and Hearns had an epic back and forth fight in which Hearns was winning when he was stopped that’s why they rematched.

              Rematches happen for a reason.

              Floyd arguably lost to Castillo and Maidana, so he rematched them.

              Floyd dominated Cotto and Canelo so he didn’t rematch them.

              Very simple.
              Lol. What is this garbage. As if endless sparring would stop ...

              maybe you forgot about Prize fighting. RJJ would say, “if you had something I wanted I’m going to go and get it.” Roy was always contextualizing weight class challenges and titles. Therefore, Cotto and Canelo didn’t INVENT “Middleweight” or “Lineal.” They were also the highest profile boxers Floyd could face when they held the Middleweight title. In case you didn’t get the point, If those fights were so easy (Cotto and Canelo), then Floyd would’ve used them as scapegoats for not needing the main man at 160, GGG, because they brought the cash over the Kazakh.

              why would Floyd care about fans criticizing “jumping” weight classes if he too created catchweights for Marquez and Canelo? Floyd could’ve easily done 155 with either Cotto
              or Canelo. So going 1lb more from his experienced 154 bouts to claim the Middleweight or Lineal titles for 6 six weight classes to say “they want me to go up 2 weight classes for GGG” makes absolutely no sense with Floyd lying and contradicting himself

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                #27
                Originally posted by LarryX....

                just stop man, seriously you are now bringing up Manny??? Floyd schooled Canelo easily at 36 years old
                He didn’t school jack. “Schooling” is Foreman vs Moorer. And yes, Pacquiao is a greater fighter than Floyd because he’s still competing at a higher level than Floyd when factoring age. Pac took riskier fights than Floyd, catchweight or not. Pac has immense power because of his build. He is a super version of Rungvisai power operating like an ATG. These little Asians have abnormal calves muscles that load up all the power planted while having short arms

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                  He didn’t school jack. “Schooling” is Foreman vs Moorer. And yes, Pacquiao is a greater fighter than Floyd because he’s still competing at a higher level than Floyd when factoring age. Pac took riskier fights than Floyd, catchweight or not. Pac has immense power because of his build. He is a super version of Rungvisai power operating like an ATG. These little Asians have abnormal calves muscles that load up all the power planted while having short arms
                  The problem is they fought and it was a routine win for Floyd

                  he was just the better fighter

                  plus going by your theory, it’s even more impressive because Floyd is the older of the two and Pac is still going strong. So Floyd on his way out still beat the younger man comfortably.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Carpe Diem


                    That’s not how it works, buddy. There were plenty of highlight shots against Canelo, you just chose to not remember and block them from your memory. Selective memory 101. Don’t worry, nothing you say can or will erase that schooling that he gave Canelo.

                    The problem with a lot of y’all Mayweather critics is that y’all wanted him to lower his fighting abilities to that of his opponents. His biggest strength was his ability to nullify his opponent’s best weapons and shut them out completely. He simply was on a higher level of skills that his opponent’s best weapons weren’t enough to override his best weapons. Call it boring or whatever, he made them all look inferior and some of y’all still losing sleeps to this day.
                    No. Floyd has about 10 highlight shots against Canelo. Divide that in 12 rounds and you’d conclude that with just that one shot Floyd won the round because he didn’t have to engage and risk, just coast on the timer. Rounds 9-12 Floyd was on the flee. Rounds 1-3 Canelo was looking great for his age. Granted it wasn’t enough to topple Floyd’s Ring IQ, it was from rounds 4-8 that Floyd had the main groove to edge each round.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                      Lol. What is this garbage. As if endless sparring would stop ...

                      maybe you forgot about Prize fighting. RJJ would say, “if you had something I wanted I’m going to go and get it.” Roy was always contextualizing weight class challenges and titles. Therefore, Cotto and Canelo didn’t INVENT “Middleweight” or “Lineal.” They were also the highest profile boxers Floyd could face when they held the Middleweight title. In case you didn’t get the point, If those fights were so easy (Cotto and Canelo), then Floyd would’ve used them as scapegoats for not needing the main man at 160, GGG, because they brought the cash over the Kazakh.

                      why would Floyd care about fans criticizing “jumping” weight classes if he too created catchweights for Marquez and Canelo? Floyd could’ve easily done 155 with either Cotto
                      or Canelo. So going 1lb more from his experienced 154 bouts to claim the Middleweight or Lineal titles for 6 six weight classes to say “they want me to go up 2 weight classes for GGG” makes absolutely no sense with Floyd lying and contradicting himself
                      I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Endless sparring.... What? Your post is almost incoherent.

                      Rematches happen when fights are competitive, it’s as simple as that.

                      Mayweather vs Castillo and Maidana were close and competitive, so there was a rematch.

                      Mayweather vs Cotto and Canelo were not close or competitive, so there was no rematch.

                      Simple as that.

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