If AJ came up through the 90s how would he have done?

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #51
    This era is not great, but Fury and Joshua are much better than the most hw-s from 90s.

    Give me a break, 100+ old Foreman was a world champ than. Foreman would be one of the smallest fighters in this era.

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      #52
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      This era is not great, but Fury and Joshua are much better than the most hw-s from 90s.

      Give me a break, 100+ old Foreman was a world champ than. Foreman would be one of the smallest fighters in this era.
      Plenty of big fighters now but how many are in condition? Only really Joshua is in condition at elite level.

      Is Fury in condition? What has the size of the fighter got to do with it?

      This entire generation of fighters, are all fighters with no real style of their own. They are trying to recreate Kiltschko's style, because that is what they think it takes to be successful at the top.

      Tyson Fury condition is overrated. Technically the fighters of the 90's were superior, we have had world champions in this era who struggle to throw straight punches i.e Deontay Wilder.

      Tyson Fury should really be around 250 flat if he was coming into the ring solid, but he is not 'He is 270 + pounds, but you are speaking as if he was some kind of genetic marvel'.

      George Foreman became world champion, but he was not a dominant champion 'And he was being smashed by Michael Moorer, until he turned that fight around which was fantastic'.

      That is not discredit to Foreman, just seems like you are trying to make out that he was dominant champion.

      Only Ruiz Junior and possible Derek Chisora are the only heavyweights these days that can fight on the inside, the era of the complete fighter seemingly has disappeared.

      Tyson Fury inside fighting is overrated, he is clumsy and stands square on 'It saved his career that he never stepped in the ring with David Haye in 2013, that was the one moment which changed the trajectory of history'.
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-21-2021, 07:20 AM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by MartialMind
        If he was in the era of Holyfield, Lewis, Tyson, Bowe, Foreman II, Morrison, Tua etc. where do you see him have fitting in?
        Let's put it this way

        Put Pulev from the fight with Joshua in there with any of those guys and tell me how long he lasts

        These guys would have splattered Pulev from pillar to post in the first round, he'd be lucky to see the 2nd

        Just cut from a different cloth

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          #54
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          He would have lost to Lennox, but he would have beaten all others.

          90s heavyweights are overrated.
          You have just started watching boxing or something ?

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            #55
            Originally posted by buddyr

            AJ beats no verson of Holyfield prior to his 3rd fight with Bowe. Stop this foolishness.. Too robotic
            It's insane some of these comments,everyone on that list would test his heart and he would crumble like he did against ruiz

            Joshua has zilch in the heart department and you guys can mention the wladimir fight but we all know wlad is safety first

            Everyone of those guys would land something decent at one point and smoke him into oblivion

            Joshua would spent all his paychecks on replacement gum shields he'd lose in every top fight

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              #56
              Originally posted by TMLT87

              I agree the 90s was better for HWs, but to be fair, if Brits have a vested interest in overrating the current division, Americans sure as hell have a vested interest in underrating it for the last 20 years. If the current scene was Wilder, Ruiz, Hunter, Miller and Martin battling it out I suspect a lot of Americans would probably be kinder to it.
              That's kinda true...but the top heavyweight of the 90s was a Brit too. Also, no one would think guys like Miller or Martin belong anywhere near HoF status lets be real here. Americans themselves don't rate their heavyweight so I fail to see why they would suddenly start doing it. Quite frankly, Americans care more about whether you're good over whether you're simply American. After all, Lewis wasn't making his biggest paydays in the UK.

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                #57
                Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                That's kinda true...but the top heavyweight of the 90s was a Brit too. Also, no one would think guys like Miller or Martin belong anywhere near HoF status lets be real here. Americans themselves don't rate their heavyweight so I fail to see why they would suddenly start doing it. Quite frankly, Americans care more about whether you're good over whether you're simply American. After all, Lewis wasn't making his biggest paydays in the UK.
                The last beloved American heavyweights were Holyfield & Tyson.

                American heavyweights are very poorly supported, american fans are terrible of late.

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                • _Rexy_
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                  #58
                  Joshua struggles against smaller HW's who can throw combos, which is basically every HW from that era not named Lennox who still picks him apart and sleeps him.


                  Burt Cooper stops him.

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                  • 2Shotz
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                    #59
                    Joshua in the 90’s? I think he goes life & death with Rahman and Moorer. Botha and Grant would be good potential wins. Mid tier guys like Tua and Mercer grind him and score a late round KO. Top tier guys like Lennox, Holy, Bowe smoke Joshua inside 6.

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                      #60
                      If Joshua keeps winning them and keeps knocking them over there is no reason why he could not compete with the 90s heavies......he’s still to reach his prime and the fury fight will tell us everything we need to know about him and a fighter that can compete in any era.
                      Personally I think Joshua is good enough to compete in that era......I don’t think he could beat Lewis,Bowe and probably Tyson .....but he competes with the rest for sure

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