Roy would be a big money Tune Up for Dawson or Adamek

[Spacey1991]

Roy needs to accept this fight knowing he deserves less. Not thinking that he could get more than Hopkins if he beat him (which he would not). It's a mental thing more than anything, and Roy needs to accept knowing that he is being dictated to and not vice versa.

If Hopkins is gonna win anyway, then why don't he just do 60 for winner 40 for loser... hes gonna win after all... so both ways he gets 60%.

I don't think he is ducking Roy... but if he can't be arsed with the fight and thinks its a waste of time then that's fine with me... just say it, he doesn't see the point in the fight.

[M.I Truth ?]

Then why did he offer Roy 50-50 2 years ago? and then change the contract when he sent it?

If you wanna talk about business, then talk about business... Bernard may be more relevant, but Roy puts asses in seats himself.

He did 500k with Tito.

Bernard-Joe..FREE HBO

Roy - Joe - HBO PPV

On top of the fact he holds the most convincing win of your career over you...

60-40 to the winner is FAIR.. especially considering how "shot" Roy is.

In fairness I think the bernard fight helped Roys fight end up on ppv. Butyour are right with the right opponent Roy can draw interest.

[THE REED]

Hopkins has beaten Roy's conquerors. The guys who were rated as better than Roy. He could also do it against Roy homself for 60-40 off the bat. The Calzaghe PPV wa salso a bust eventhough it had a 24/7. Matter of fact I remember eeading that HBO considered making that fight a 24/7 a mistake.

Also tito sold the fight and was the draw ther. Ffs Tito did crazy numbers against Winky Wright......How much did the Shieka and Lacy PPV's do?

Kelly-Pavlik-Bernard Hopkins did 190k PPV buys... a complete BUST.

And you are talking about a TOP LHW vs an UNDEFEATED MW.



A SHOT ROY vs Joe... STILL did 225k ppv buys.

And they wouldnt even put Bhop vs Joe on PPV.

[street bully]

No, it cannot be called a bonus as the money would come from a deduction of the losers purse. The situation is equal in principle. If this could be done and in one of the biggest fights ever there is no bussiness regulative reason Jones proposition can't be done neither legal nore conventional. What you at most can claim is that it is unusual but it hardly seems enough reason to discard the proposition does it? With the same reasoning we could disregard the whole idea of a rematch because it's unusual that they take place after sixteen years?

No, actually what you are saying is laughable. In no way was there a set amount for the winner and the loser in that fight. There was an amount each fighter would get off the bat, and the fighters agreed to a million bet to the winner. That has nothing to do with Roy's WWE like proposal.

[Spacey1991]

The rematch is well over due... and maybe Roy was acting a bit spoilt BITD, but then Hopkins should just be the bigger man and not stoop to that level, if he wants it just say, 60 to the winner 40 to the loser... prove he is the better fighter, if he wins which I think he will... he will get 60% and would have finally redeemed the only loss which was convincing in his career in the only way he could have.

All his other losses have been scrappy... and he can make a case for winning, the RJJ fight is the only one convincingly enough to say Hopkins lost that fight... if he beats him now... he has redeemed it in the best way he can.

[street bully]

Kelly-Pavlik-Bernard Hopkins did 190k PPV buys... a complete BUST.

And you are talking about a TOP LHW vs an UNDEFEATED MW.



A SHOT ROY vs Joe... STILL did 225k ppv buys.

And they wouldnt even put Bhop vs Joe on PPV.

No one in America knew of Calzahe before the Hopkins fight. He made a name for himself after that fight Kessler vs Calzagh had the lowest HBO WCB ratings of any fight in 2007 that means even the crap WCB cards headlined by guys like Kirkland had more viewers than a SMW unification.

Also Roy vs Calzaghe had a 24/7....24/7s cost a lot to make, and are intended for fights that will sell over 500K fights.

Nobody expected Pavlik vs Hopkins to sell well, seeing as Hopkins was viewed as a sacrificial lamb at the point. However Hopkins vs Winky did sell well ina fight that Hopkins was the centre of.

[THE REED]

No one in America knew of Calzahe before the Hopkins fight. Kessler vs Calzagh had the lowest HBO WCB ratings of any fight in 2007.

Also Roy vs Calzaghe had a 24/7....24/7s cost a lot to make, and are intended for fights that will sell over 500K fights.

Nobody expected Pavlik vs Hopkins to sell well. However Hopkisn vs Winky did sell well.

That was proven by the PPV sales... they certainly didnt know Hopkins either.

WInky sold better... but not against TITO-Jones.

And you can say TIto has mor eto do with it and you are right... but the figures are STILL THERE.

Jones-Tito, Jones-Joe >>>> Nard Winky, Nard Pavlik.

The numbers are facts... this is still a business.

[Spacey1991]

In fairness I think the bernard fight helped Roys fight end up on ppv. Butyour are right with the right opponent Roy can draw interest.

Not particularly when you think about it, it was that scrappy it probably turned people off of watching Calzaghe...

[M.I Truth ?]

It would be an awsome concept but I doubt it would ever go down. Once a fighter feels he deserves the bigger cut then you won't see them possibly settle for less by chance. I don't see why the guy who would be entitled to the bigger share would agree to possibly take less, even if he is fully confident.It would be good for Bernard to possibly get revenge against the last guy who clearly beat him but if may be a hollow accomplishment when you look at what Roy has been through. Still I would love to watch a fight with this concept.

[Spacey1991]

I should stay out of this thread... typical Floyd fan getting into a debate about purse splits!