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  • Saying the deal is illegal or whatever seems unreasonable. Hopkins somehow had a bet with Tarver over a knock down in a contract but a 60-40 split is somehow gonna be illegal. Promoters , managers & trainers find ways to legally steal from the fighters, so im sure that this could be written in legal language that would make it very much legal. This is boxing any kind of deal can be reached period.

    let's not forget how we got here, Hopkins was going off for like 20 mins calling Mcnabb an uncle tom and insinuating that mcnabb was scared of him, which very well may be true. But, whoever the caller was had heard enough and threw Hop under the bus "As Long As His Daddy Training Him" LMAO that guy was funny but I agree when Roy Sr involved i feel way better. Anyway Hop brought this on himself by talking to much and getting people angry, then he either bit the bait or talked himself into a corner cause now he is in a mild negotiation with Roy and looks foolish for not taking the offer Jones purposed or outright saying no your done your a bum give me 60-40 or get off the phone. he should have handled it better cause he gave Jones alot of credibility today whether he meant to or not just by discussing it. He also looked foolish for saying he thinks he would domiante pretty much but refuses to agree to 40% to the loser, why is that even an issue if he knows he can win for sure.

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    • Originally posted by street bully View Post
      Pressed is a respectful manner for an old ass man 17 years older than him to come down 5 pounds in hopes of sapping him.

      Better? .
      No... Bernard fans like to use the excuse that Hopkins was a MW his entire career... but then with the Pavlik fight, they want to talk about how coming down 5 lbs was a big deal to 170.

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      • Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        No... Bernard fans like to use the excuse that Hopkins was a MW his entire career... but then with the Pavlik fight, they want to talk about how coming down 5 lbs was a big deal to 170.
        Berto is beefing Ocho cinco now?

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        • Originally posted by street bully View Post
          Berto is beefing Ocho cinco now?
          I saw that on facebook, didnt read it though.

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          • Originally posted by Jutt View Post
            Never thought about that. Figures a guy from Pa would say something intelligent though. I wonder why BHop(also from PA) is actin all bitchmade about the fight all of a sudden. I honestly think he'd beat Roy in a close fight.

            Edit:Why the **** is Bhop worried about the losers stakes? Thats damn near accepting defeat again...
            bitchmade?!?!?.....B.Hop?!?!?!? .......get real my dude!!!

            and for the record my dudes......my source back home hit me LATE last night and told me that the fight WILL happen in 2010........thats all he could tell me at the moment......but he said he's 100% sure that B.Hop-Roy II will be made in 2010........he's NEVER given me bad or false info........I told cats LONG before Valuev and Haye was announced that Haye was gonna skate out on the Klits and scrap with Valuev........my dude passed me that info......I bet cats thought I was buggin.......but it is what it is........B.Hop and Roy is gonna scrap again!!!!......I guess their building the interest for the HBO dudes to get hyped up!!

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            • Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
              bitchmade?!?!?.....B.Hop?!?!?!? .......get real my dude!!!

              and for the record my dudes......my source back home hit me LATE last night and told me that the fight WILL happen in 2010........thats all he could tell me at the moment......but he said he's 100% sure that B.Hop-Roy II will be made in 2010........he's NEVER given me bad or false info........I told cats LONG before Valuev and Haye was announced that Haye was gonna skate out on the Klits and scrap with Valuev........my dude passed me that info......I bet cats thought I was buggin.......but it is what it is........B.Hop and Roy is gonna scrap again!!!!......I guess their building the interest for the HBO dudes to get hyped up!!
              I hope your wrong this time LOL

              I've been hoping for the Adamek fight since it was originally discussed because I feel it would be much more significant.

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              • For the last few years I've thought that Bernard would stop Roy if they ever fought. Now I'm not so sure. That sequence at the end of the 5 th round against Lacy was something else. Yes I know it was Lacy, a semi-shot version of a mediocre fighter, but still, Roy looked good out there. I think the key for him is having fun out there, not sure fighting Bernard will be much fun for him, but I think he lasts the distance, and has a chance.

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                • Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                  For the last few years I've thought that Bernard would stop Roy if they ever fought. Now I'm not so sure. That sequence at the end of the 5 th round against Lacy was something else. Yes I know it was Lacy, a semi-shot version of a mediocre fighter, but still, Roy looked good out there. I think the key for him is having fun out there, not sure fighting Bernard will be much fun for him, but I think he lasts the distance, and has a chance.
                  Didn't expect this.... Ive been trying to say this... the fighter you are fighting has a lot to do w a performance... but you can't discredit the winners performance either... Roy hasn't let his hands go like that in 6 years. He didnt have to throw a 20 punch combination... He HASNT in 6 years.. against ANYONE.. but he did... and it was the fastest combination in boxing right now.
                  I would be willing to compare the speed and ridiculousness of that combo, to anyone elses.

                  Both fighters can win this fight. Id love to see 60 to the winner.

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                  • I don't think Hopkins is "scared" of Roy, but I do believe he thinks there's a huge chance that he will lose to him again. Styles make fights, and I just don't see how the version of Roy that fought Lacy (the one that actually throws punches) can lose to Hopkins. Hopkins has trouble with fighters with speed as he is a more control the tempo, laid back fighter, especially if that speed comes with any kind of power behind it. Just see the Taylor fights- about the only guy with speed and decent power he's fought lately and lost both of them, and we've seen how "great" a fighter Taylor turned out to be. Now, if the non-punching version of Jones that appeared in the Johnson, 3rd Tarver and Calzaghe fights appear, Hopkins beats him up no doubt.

                    My feeling is that the only way Hopkins can beat Jones is if he lands one big shot and KOs him but when's the last time Hopkins has KOed someone with one punch? A fat De La Hoya? And that was with a body shot. He beat the hell out of Pavlik, but if I recall, Pavlik never went down. As we saw from the Taylor fights, it doesn't take a lot to knock him down; keep him down, maybe, but not knock him down.

                    So I just don't see Hopkins out-working Jones and/or KOing him with one punch. Even in rounds that Hopkins may have a higher punch total, Jones is so much flashier than Hopkins that Jones would probably steal some. But this is my opinion and is strictly based on Roy Jones letting his hands go.

                    On another note, for people saying "Why should Hopkins fight Roy, what does Roy have to offer": Well, aside from the $$ it would generate, whatever happened to just wanting to beat the guy that beat you? You would think that a guy who talks about another man being "scared to stand up to someone" would be the first to say, "listen, Roy, I'm a better fighter than you now and you beat me when I was just coming up, so I'm going to accept 60-winner and 40-loser just so I can kick your ass." I'm tired of all this "well, I beat Jim, who beat Joe, who beat you so I'm better" bull****. In football, if my team loses to team A, but I beat team B who beat team A, I don't talk trash to team A fans because they'd say "so what, we beat you." Say what you want about Roy, but he has the W over Hopkins in a fight that wasn't really that close to even warrant a rematch until many years later.

                    As entertaining as this radio show was, sadly, we'll more-than-likely never see this fight happen. I wish Hopkins had as much faith in himself that he could easily beat this shell of a Roy Jones that his fans have- if he did, this fight would be happening this year.

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