Pacquiao is not a 6 division champ - cannot be seven division by beating cotto

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  • JM1
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    #71
    im waiting

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      #72
      Originally posted by JM1
      i can read. how about you? can you spell??

      you said that division champ = lineal champ. question, is cotto the lineal champ at 147?? yes or no??

      pac was a champ at 135. he help the wbc world title
      I know you cant!!!!!!!!

      Cotto is a title holder at 147, as Pacquiao was at 135.

      Pacquiao was never the 135 champion, Casamayor was, who passed it to JMM!!!!!!!!!!


      Again

      Title holder = a world title holder of either of the 4 major organizations (WBO,WBC,WBA,IBF).

      Lineal Champ = Division Champion. The man who beat the man!!!!

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        #73
        Originally posted by chinoy
        The Ring Champion is THE legitimate world champion......how can you ever dispute this fact?
        No its not.

        At LHW(175) the division champion is Zolt erdei, but the ring Title is vacant!!!!!

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          #74
          He was a six division titlist, a three division champion.
          It's true that he's not a six division champion, but Mayweather fans need to realize that PBF didn't have the true championship at 140 and could barely call himself champ at 147 considering he beat Baldomir to win the belt.

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          • chinoy
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            #75
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            No its not.

            At LHW(175) the division champion is Zolt erdei, but the ring Title is vacant!!!!!
            wrong.....Erdie is the WBO champion

            one can be the WBO champion but not the Ring champion

            see this link

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              #76
              Ring title is more prestigious than all those other ABC titles

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                #77
                Originally posted by chinoy
                wrong.....Erdie is the WBO champion

                one can be the WBO champion but not the Ring champion

                see this link

                http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/light_heavyweight/


                OMG!!!!!!!

                What the **** I just said?

                Erdei is the lineal Champ, but doesnt hold the RIng title.

                Erdei beat hill for the lineal title.

                Sad but true Erdei is the real LHW champion!!!!!!!!


                Lineal title and Ring title arent the same thing!!!!!!

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                • chinoy
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR


                  OMG!!!!!!!

                  What the **** I just said?

                  Erdei is the lineal Champ, but doesnt hold the RIng title.

                  Erdei beat hill for the lineal title.

                  Sad but true Erdei is the real LHW champion!!!!!!!!


                  Lineal title and Ring title arent the same thing!!!!!!
                  I never wrote that Lineal title=Ring title......where in my posts did I suggested that?

                  when Pac won over Barrera and Hatton, The Ring proclaimed Pac as the featherweight CHAMPION and Jr WW CHAMPION.....that is the most important thing......

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                    #79
                    Even if it is lineal/Ring titles, when a fighter wins it, they announce it as "new or still champion of the world". Whether its the big 4 ABC titles that we bash on, its still a title.

                    Basically, lineal/Ring, ABC titles, it is a world title.

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                      #80
                      when Pac won over Barrera and Hatton, The Ring proclaimed Pac as the featherweight CHAMPION and Jr WW CHAMPION.....that is the most important thing......
                      thread starter is right pac is a 4 division champ..he did not win titles at 126 and 140. ring is not a title it is a MAGAZINE a magazine cannot sanction a title fight

                      and as far as beinbg lineal goes in order to become lineal you have to win a major sanctioning body title (WBC, WBA, IBF,WBO))

                      what makes a fighter "lineal" is that they had to fight a sanctioned title fight and beat the champion of that sanctioning body, now if they decide to drop the title after they win they cannot claim to still be the champion of that division.

                      you must win a title and keep a title(WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO) and defend it.

                      barrera won the wbc title at 126 over morales and dropped the title he is no longer lineal of anything because he dropped the title that made him lineal.

                      same gos for hatton the ****ing bum was belt hoping and beat zoo for his IBF title. that made him lineal. the moment he dropped that ibf title he was no longer the champ of that division.

                      champions defend their titles, being lineal gives fighters like hatton a free pass to fight weak comp when he should be defending his title against the best..not pretending he is some super champ because he beat one fighter.

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