Pacquiao is not a 6 division champ - cannot be seven division by beating cotto

[Glamour Puss]

juan diaz was the most credible 135 lber.

casamayor was semi shot and got a gift decision over cruz.

david diaz was a paper champ.

And Packy got a gift decision against JMM too.
So what?

[shadeyfizzle]

let me exppain this **** again!!!!!!

Lineal titles= Division Champion. Pacquiao have 4 off those 112,126,130,140

World titles = Alphabet belts won in a sanctioned fight. Pacquiao have for of those 112-WBC, 122-IBF, 130-WBC, 135-WBC

The ring title is not a valid title although its the only one who makes sense most of the time and the IBO is not a major organization so his title is not a valid one.


So pacquiao is a 4 division title holder and 4 divsion champion, being a lineal champion dont make you a world title holder or viceversa.

So pacquiao is a 4 divsion Champion and a 4 divsion title holder.

Agianst Cotto he is aiming at his 5th division world title.

Ok so Pacquiao is a 4 division champion. By that logic it's still more than anyone else in the history of the sport.

[shade darkar]

the Ring Magazine championship is a Legitimate World championship. unlike the ABC belts, there is ONLY ONE Ring champion......

whoever holds the ring championship is considered THE Champ for that division......

the TS is asking regarding the legitimacy of pac's 6 division championship.....considering that the Ring champ is the lineal champ, Pac is a 6 division champion......

no it isnt. everybody knows that if you have the ring magazine belt, you are usually considered the best in the division. but that doesnt make it a world title!! there is 4 major world titles. wbc, wba, wbo or ibf. only if you hold 1 of those belts you can say your a world champion. at 140, alexander, bradley, khan and juan urango are the world champions. but pacquiao is considered the best and every1 knows this.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

following your argument that being division champ = lineal champ, then pac was never a champ in the lightweight division?? cause he didnt beat the lineal champ at 135 but he got the wbc belt right? and cotto is not the lineal champ at 147, so if i follow your argument then pac isnt even aiming in getting his 5th division title(according to you)

Can you ****** ass ****ing read????

5th Division World title!!


And no pac was not the 135 pounds champ he just was the WBC title holder!!!!!

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

no it isnt. everybody knows that if you have the ring magazine belt, you are usually considered the best in the division. but that doesnt make it a world title!! there is 4 major world titles. wbc, wba, wbo or ibf. only if you hold 1 of those belts you can say your a world champion. at 140, alexander, bradley, khan and juan urango are the world champions. but pacquiao is considered the best and every1 knows this.

Yeah, but pac is also teh lineal champ.

he beat hatton, who beat tszyu,ect,ect,ect

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Ok so Pacquiao is a 4 division champion. By that logic it's still more than anyone else in the history of the sport.

Thats Cool.

Im not trying to hate on pacquiao or anything.

I just want to clarify how things are!!!!!!

Still 4 lineal championships are excellent!!!!!!!!!!!

[JM1]

Can you ****** ass ****ing read????

5th Division World title!!


And no pac was not the 135 pounds champ he just was the WBC title holder!!!!!

i can read. how about you? can you spell??

you said that division champ = lineal champ. question, is cotto the lineal champ at 147?? yes or no??

pac was a champ at 135. he help the wbc world title

[shade darkar]

Yeah, but pac is also teh lineal champ.

he beat hatton, who beat tszyu,ect,ect,ect

yes i know! im just trying to point out that the ring mag doesnt count towards calling yourself a world champ of the weight and he is actually a 4 weight world champ.

[chinoy]

no it isnt. everybody knows that if you have the ring magazine belt, you are usually considered the best in the division. but that doesnt make it a world title!! there is 4 major world titles. wbc, wba, wbo or ibf. only if you hold 1 of those belts you can say your a world champion. at 140, alexander, bradley, khan and juan urango are the world champions. but pacquiao is considered the best and every1 knows this.

ok....granting that I will agree that The Ring champ is NOT a world title.....but Pacman is still a 6 division CHAMPION (ok, not TITLE HOLDER as you argue) because The Ring currently ranks Pacman as the Ring CHAMPION at Jr. welterweight and after the Barrera fight, as the Ring CHAMPION at Featherweight....

by virtue of this, Pacquiao is a 6 division CHAMPION

[chinoy]

yes i know! im just trying to point out that the ring mag doesnt count towards calling yourself a world champ of the weight and he is actually a 4 weight world champ.

The Ring Champion is THE legitimate world champion......how can you ever dispute this fact?