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  • BennyST
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    #61
    Originally posted by studentofthegam
    Remember I said hate aside. We dont need to discuss hate topics like PPV, race backing and disrespecting JMM.
    Now back to boxing. OOOOOKKKKKK, as a hater didnt you think he was pushin it a little goin up to fight DLH and Baldomir. Let me guess, You also think Judah was whippin Floyds ass too. Just a guess. Did he not punish all those guys. If I recall correctly did DLH beat a washed up JCC and get full credit for it? One more question before I go, In that warped angry mind of yours maybe you can tell me the truth, could Floyd beat Meldric Taylor. I want to know because he was less than five seconds from beating JCC.
    Let me just say this one thing. You think it was pushing it that Mayweather moved up from SFW or 130 and then beat an old, close to shot Oscar and a bad champ in Judah and Baldomir at WW?

    Do you even realise that Duran started at what would be Super Bantamweight or 118, moved up and beat Ernesto Marcel, then won the lightweight title and unified against HOfer Ken Buchanan, then jumped 140 and moved straight to WW to fight one of the top three ATG WW's in Leonard and beat him? A guy that was much bigger and much younger? How does that compare to what Maywether did? It doesn't. Duran stomps those accomplishments.

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    • talip bin osman
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      #62
      Originally posted by studentofthegam
      I have looked at a few atg lists and I see some names that are consistently in the top 25 to 30.
      -Duran
      -Pep
      -Chavez Sr.
      Im not picking on them because they are not the only ones. But really, doesnt Mayweather mop the floor with these guys. Lets take that down a notch. Thats my personal opinion. OK doesnt he beat all three.
      hypothetically mopping the floor with the 3 great fighters u mentioned as a sole criteria for higher places in any ATG list would not cut it for PBF...

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      • ThunderWolf
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        #63
        Originally posted by studentofthegam
        I have looked at a few atg lists and I see some names that are consistently in the top 25 to 30.
        -Duran
        -Pep
        -Chavez Sr.
        Im not picking on them because they are not the only ones. But really, doesnt Mayweather mop the floor with these guys. Lets take that down a notch. Thats my personal opinion. OK doesnt he beat all three.
        Mayweather Jr. is not even in the top 50 atg and that`s a fact.

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        • koboy
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          #64
          Originally posted by nelsoncm
          Floyd's legend is built on skill, not actual accomplishment.
          Best post in awhile. Green K for you.

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          • joseph5620
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            #65
            Originally posted by ThunderWolf
            Mayweather Jr. is not even in the top 50 atg and that`s a fact.
            Actually it's not unless you can come up with 50 better fighters.

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            • ThunderWolf
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              #66
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              Actually it's not unless you can come up with 50 better fighters.
              Maybe you can just update this list :

              In 2002, Ring Magazine published a list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years in boxing, as voted by the magazine's writers.

              Sugar Ray Robinson
              Henry Armstrong
              Muhammad Ali
              Joe Louis
              Roberto Duran
              Willie Pep
              Harry Greb
              Benny Leonard
              Sugar Ray Leonard
              Pernell Whitaker
              Carlos Monzon
              Rocky Marciano
              Ezzard Charles
              Archie Moore
              Sandy Saddler
              Jack Dempsey
              Marvin Hagler
              Julio Cesar Chavez
              Eder Jofre
              Alexis Arguello
              Barney Ross
              Evander Holyfield
              Ike Williams
              Salvador Sanchez
              George Foreman
              Kid Gavilan
              Larry Holmes
              Mickey Walker
              Ruben Olivares
              Gene Tunney
              **** Tiger
              Fighting Harada
              Emile Griffith
              Tony Canzoneri
              Aaron Pryor
              Pascual Perez
              Miguel Canto
              Manuel Ortiz
              Charley Burley
              Carmen Basilio
              Michael Spinks
              Joe Frazier
              Khaosai Galaxy
              Roy Jones, Jr.
              Tiger Flowers
              Panama Al Brown
              Kid Chocolate
              Joe Brown
              Tommy Loughran
              Bernard Hopkins
              Felix Trinidad
              Jake LaMotta
              Lennox Lewis
              Wilfredo Gomez
              Bob Foster
              Jose Napoles
              Billy Conn
              Jimmy McLarnin
              Pancho Villa
              Carlos Ortiz
              Bob Montgomery
              Freddie Miller
              Benny Lynch
              Beau Jack
              Azumah Nelson
              Eusebio Pedroza
              Thomas Hearns
              Wilfred Benitez
              Antonio Cervantes
              Ricardo Lopez
              Sonny Liston
              Mike Tyson
              Vicente Saldivar
              Gene Fullmer
              Oscar De La Hoya
              Carlos Zarate
              Marcel Cerdan
              Flash Elorde
              Mike McCallum
              Harold Johnson

              So can PBF even best Marvin Hagler in this list?
              Last edited by ThunderWolf; 08-12-2009, 10:19 AM.

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              • AllyboyJNR
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                #67
                Originally posted by HarlemDavidson
                Mayweather beats Duran at 135 easily.
                Chavez Sr was pretty big so I'd give him a good shot against Floyd. p4p Floyd was better, although his resume isn't.
                I haven't seen many Pep fights so I wouldn't know.
                ur telling me chavez had a better resume lol look at his 80 odd fights before he started losing....he was a known cherrypicker who should av lost to meldrick taylor

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AllyboyJNR
                  ur telling me chavez had a better resume lol look at his 80 odd fights before he started losing....he was a known cherrypicker who should av lost to meldrick taylor

                  Chavez was a known cherry picker? No fool, he was known as the best fighter in the world.

                  WTF drug are some of these people on???

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                  • studentofthegam
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by 2501
                    what makes you think floyd would even step in the ring with them?
                    Because he whipped everyone he's faced Mr. Gacy

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                    • KittenFlaps
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                      #70
                      Mayweather is no Leonard. Duran mops the floor with him.

                      I am an admitted Duran nuthugger though.

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