Nards resume kinda sucks

[GoDsRiGhThAnD]

I really think people hate Hopkins so much that he could move up to Cruserweight and beat Adamek. Then he could drop back down to 175 and beat the Dawson-Johnson rematch winner. After that he could fight Paul Williams at a catch weight of 170 and whip his ass. And at 47 years old beat the winner of the 168 tourney and the idiots like the guy that started this thread still wouldn't give him any credit.

I think he should capture a title at 168 he previously mad 170 so i think he can make 168 then go to cruiserweight

[GoDsRiGhThAnD]

I really think people hate Hopkins so much that he could move up to Cruserweight and beat Adamek. Then he could drop back down to 175 and beat the Dawson-Johnson rematch winner. After that he could fight Paul Williams at a catch weight of 170 and whip his ass. And at 47 years old beat the winner of the 168 tourney and the idiots like the guy that started this thread still wouldn't give him any credit.

Ok Im a b-hop fan but you fumando yerba cuz b-hop can fight active people who are lose that throw 120 punches per round b-hop doesn't have that satmina at age 44 or 45 plus only way to beat pwills is to ko him and hopkins doesn't have that type of power.Remember this ain't stiff pavlik who only throws straight and jabs.

[True Guru]

lol @ people going on about the Klits resumes,they fight the best of a bad HW scene,Hopkins picked on midgets lol

[Don Johnson]

This guy is obsessed with the Klits or something. Nard has a really good resume. At The Time he was an underdog against Pavlik. He was an underdog against Tito who was already established at that weightclass when he snagged the title from Joppy I believe.

[Don Johnson]

lol @ people going on about the Klits resumes,they fight the best of a bad HW scene,Hopkins picked on midgets lol

so tito and pavlik are midgets? Winky and de la hoya are midgets? They're all pretty much 5'10" and taller. Bernard is like 6'0" or less when he fights, he doesn't really use his height advantage at all.

[ny123]

This man has everyone believing he's great. It's not true. The guys 'best' wins have come against fighters tailor made for himself or against fighters outside there best weight category. Every elite fighter AT there best weight that he has fought, have beaten him, close and disputed or not, he has never done enough to win.

Over the years he has collected losses against Clinton Mitchell (which can be excused), Roy Jones Jr, Jermain Taylor twice, and Joe Calzaghe.

Now whilst losses against these fighters is not disgraceful, the man is still placed above them by many fans, in particular Calzaghe and Roy Jones? How can this be? He lost against the two fighters who are always being compared against him, as to who the best fighter between 160-175 of this generation has been. By process of elimination, Hopkins is clearly below both due to the fact he lost to them. No ifs or buts, his name is on Jones' and Calzaghes resume therefore is below them. Also before we get the Nard nuthuggers coming in saying he didnt actually lose to Joe. Guess what, he did, he started feigning low blows and couldn't keep up with the pace, and lost a close but clear decision.

Now, onto his wins. On paper he has some very good names on his resume, but the majority of these are just that, decent on paper.

His two biggest wins came against blown up welterweights in DLH and Tito, and anyone with half a brain knew they would lose. Tito may have destroyed Joppy, but the guy was not elite at 160, he was elite at 147. Same goes for De La Hoya, despite the fact it was fought at a catchweight of 156, he still had no business being in the ring with Hopkins, the naturally much bigger man.

Kelly Pavlik and Winky Wright. With all due respect are very good fighters, but both fought outside of there best weights, and to add to this, Pavlik was sick/ill. Winky, a blown up junior middleweight fighting against Hopkins at very near on Light Heavyweight, a fat puffed up version of the man who dominated light middleweight. Pavlik to add to this, was always overhyped, and is a come forward slugger, someone who's style is tailor made for Hopkins.


Glen Johnson and Tarver, two RIDICULOUSLY overrated fighters. Johnson is a come forward slugger, and was embarassed by Hopkins. Tarver has just never been much good.

And that's it.


Now this isn't to bash on the abilities and skills of Hopkins, as the man is a very good fighter, however, his resume does not put him Calzaghe.

i agree with some of what you said but at the same time you can pick apart pretty much every fighters resume. he is a great fighter because he has been at such a hgh level for so many years

[Swoosh]

Too many n00bs on this board. Bernard fought who was available at MW at the time. The division ****** ass for years. Bernard also never caved in to the promoters and politics of boxing. The names on his resume aren't the greatest of all time, but you have to respect the honor he kept. Hate him or love him, Bernard never sold out.

[THE REED]

Nigel Benn - WBC 168 champ for 4 years, 1992 - 1996 (Battered Roys boy G-man,Roy wanted none of him)

Chris Eubank - WBO 168 champ for 5 years, 1990 - 1995

Dariusz Michalczewski - WBO 175 champ for a whole 9 years, 1994 - 2003

Gerald Mcclellan - WBC 160 champ ( When he was Roys #1 contender for Roy,He did his usual thing and jumped a division)

Frankie Liles - WBA 168 champ, 1994 - 1999

Steve Collins - WBO 168 champ, 1995 - 1997(Called Roy out numerous times in the press,always ignored by Roy.

While Roy ducked FOUR of these fighters at 168,lets take a look at who he actually fought

James Toney (weight-drained beyond belief)
Antoine Byrd (who?)
Vinny Pazienza (blown up lightweight)
Tony Thornton(LMAO)
Eric Lucas(LOL)
Bryant Brannon(who?)

1989-1993: Goes undefeated 21-0

1993: 21-0 RJJR fights First Championship fight against young 22-1 Bernard Hopkins.

Wins fight, 8-4...

How good was Bernard?

Was Bernard Green?

Lets just say this....

After Roy beat Bernard... Bernard didn't lose another fight for 12 years.

Gerald Mcclellan - WBC 160 champ ( When he was Roys #1 contender for Roy,He did his usual thing and jumped a division)

Does his usual thing and jump a division? Yeah, how about to fight a BETTER pound for pound undefeated fighter... at a HIGHER weight class.

1994: 26-0 RJJR MOVES UP to fight 44-0 #3 P4P fighter and SMW Champion James Toney... It's a whitewash.... Toney barely wins a round..

You say Toney was weight drained... well Roy Jones Jr. didnt sign on the dotted line to fight a weight drained James Toney. He didn't make a smaller fighter come up in weight... he didnt ask James Toney for a catch weight of 166lbs. No, he signed on the dotted line to fight one of the best fighters in the game, to move up to HIS weight class, and fight him.. risking his unbeaten record.

That was the choice he made.

Frankie Liles - WBA 168 champ, 1994 - 1999

Steve Collins - WBO 168 champ, 1995 - 1997(Called Roy out numerous times in the press,always ignored by Roy.

Nigel Benn - WBC 168 champ for 4 years, 1992 - 1996 (Battered Roys boy G-man,Roy wanted none of him)

Chris Eubank - WBO 168 champ for 5 years, 1990 - 1995

Fair Enough... lets say Roy moves up to 168lbs and fights Frankie Liles or Steve Collins instead of James Toney... well then he would be ducking James Toney.

You can say he didnt fight this belt holder or that belt holder at 168... and I will respond with, what he did do.... is fight the very best fighter AT THAT weight, when he did move up.

THen moves up in weight YET AGAIN... to fight yet another division of bigger fighters than himself.

1996: 33-0 RJJR Moves up yet again and beats 49-4 McCallum for the WBC LHW title

1997: Roy suffers his first loss via DQ to 26-0 Montell Griffin... 5 months later, immediately revenged by 1st round brutal knockout

1998: 36-1 RJJR fights Del Valle to take the WBA title into his hands along with the WBC...

1999: 39-1 RJJR fights Reggie Johnson to acquire the IBF LHW title along iwth his WBC and WBA titles...

2000: 42-1 RJJR fights Eric Harding to capture the IBO LHW title, along with the IBF, WBA, and WBC titles

Funny how you mention the crap WBF and IBA titles that he acquired, but you don't mention the WBC, WBA, IBO, IBF titles that he also had.

He held SEVEN titles at ONE time at LHW

You mention Darius, who I personally believe they should of fought of course... but to blame everything on Roy? Roy wasnt willing to go overseas, and Darius wasnt willing to come here either.. Darius was just at fault as Roy for not making the fight.

But that doesnt mean Roy didnt fight top 10 ranked LHW's.

You talk about garbage men and post men, but you don't talk about his ranked top 10 opponents, now do you?

Lets look at the ACTUAL LHW rankings in this time


Ring Rankings at Light Heavyweight in 1998 before he unified all 3 belts.

1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. Dariusz Michalczewski
3. Reggie Johnson
4. Graciano Rocchigiani
5. Lou Del Valle
6. Eric Harding
7. Montell Griffin
8. Michael Nunn
9. Antonio Tarver
10. David Telesco


Ring Rankings at Light Heavyweight in 2003 his last year as Champion.

Roy Jones Jr., Champion

1. Antonio Tarver
2. Julio Cesar Gonzalez < Who beat Darius 2 years later.
3. Dariusz Michalczewski
4. Glen Johnson
5. Eric Harding
6. Clinton Woods
7. Silvio Branco
8. Montell Griffin
9. Richard Hall
10. Mehdi Sahnoune

Both lists are practically Roys resume at LHW

Oh but lets not stop there.

Lets move UP in weight again, to fight John Ruiz for the WBA HW strap. The fact that Roy gets flack for this is humorous to me.

Lets talk about how he fought "Bum" Ruiz... but lets not talk about how he came from 154lbs to do it.

And lets not talk about the fact that Roy was a cruiserweight 198lbs, fighting a 226lb Legit heavyweight.

He was outweighed by 28lbs, and all it would of taken was one SOLID right hand to put "Glass chin Jones" to sleep. So was this risky? Of course it was.

If Roy Jones was an actual heavyweight fighter, and his only opponent that he beat at heavyweight was John Ruiz, then fair enough give him flack. But he wasnt a heavyweight... he was a small light heavyweight, who moved up 2 weight classes to fight someone who out weighed him by 28 lbs.

Now if you want to give him **** for not fighting 6 foot 5 265lb Lennox Lewis, then that's your agenda...

After Tyson and Holyfield fight negotiations broke down, he did what he should of done... he moved back down 2 weight classes to fight #1 ranked LHW champion Antonio Tarver, who had been calling him out. He didnt go fight garbage men and police men... he drained his 2% body fat body down 20 pounds and fought the best fighter in the division... and won... barely, but he won the fight and REGAINED the LHW titles.

The rest is history.

So next time you try to make a biased post, try to include ALL facts instead of only the ones that support your **** agenda.

[Edward Hitler]

So next time you try to make a biased post, try to include ALL facts instead of only the ones that support your **** agenda.

well i know who im gonna call if i ever end up on who wants to be a millionaire and a question about RJJ pops up lol

Well said Reed !!

[djtmal]

This man has everyone believing he's great. It's not true. The guys 'best' wins have come against fighters tailor made for himself or against fighters outside there best weight category. Every elite fighter AT there best weight that he has fought, have beaten him, close and disputed or not, he has never done enough to win.

Over the years he has collected losses against Clinton Mitchell (which can be excused), Roy Jones Jr, Jermain Taylor twice, and Joe Calzaghe.

Now whilst losses against these fighters is not disgraceful, the man is still placed above them by many fans, in particular Calzaghe and Roy Jones? How can this be? He lost against the two fighters who are always being compared against him, as to who the best fighter between 160-175 of this generation has been. By process of elimination, Hopkins is clearly below both due to the fact he lost to them. No ifs or buts, his name is on Jones' and Calzaghes resume therefore is below them. Also before we get the Nard nuthuggers coming in saying he didnt actually lose to Joe. Guess what, he did, he started feigning low blows and couldn't keep up with the pace, and lost a close but clear decision.

Now, onto his wins. On paper he has some very good names on his resume, but the majority of these are just that, decent on paper.

His two biggest wins came against blown up welterweights in DLH and Tito, and anyone with half a brain knew they would lose. Tito may have destroyed Joppy, but the guy was not elite at 160, he was elite at 147. Same goes for De La Hoya, despite the fact it was fought at a catchweight of 156, he still had no business being in the ring with Hopkins, the naturally much bigger man.

Kelly Pavlik and Winky Wright. With all due respect are very good fighters, but both fought outside of there best weights, and to add to this, Pavlik was sick/ill. Winky, a blown up junior middleweight fighting against Hopkins at very near on Light Heavyweight, a fat puffed up version of the man who dominated light middleweight. Pavlik to add to this, was always overhyped, and is a come forward slugger, someone who's style is tailor made for Hopkins.


Glen Johnson and Tarver, two RIDICULOUSLY overrated fighters. Johnson is a come forward slugger, and was embarassed by Hopkins. Tarver has just never been much good.

And that's it.


Now this isn't to bash on the abilities and skills of Hopkins, as the man is a very good fighter, however, his resume does not put him Calzaghe.

good post. not to mention the fact that those 20 title defenses come against the weakest middleweight division in the history of the sport. i still say his best win was against a part-time movie actor in tarver. everybody else was two and three divisions smaller.