Roach: "WBO Will Sanction Pacquiao-Cotto Regardless"

[shadeyfizzle]

this is what cotto should do;

get the money part right the way you want it & technically & officially get the fight signed by both parties. get it in paper. you dont wanna pay the sanc fees fine dont do it, if it looks like the wbo is gonna put it on the line whether u vacate or not dont pay the sanc fees just make sure you & manny sign the contract.

then on the weigh in.....


come in at 147....

then when they give you hours to try to lose the weight say no....


what are they gonna do cancel the fight that's gonna happen the next night?

they wont do it. they will be forced to fight you at 147.

I agree with this 100%. Like I've been saying for weeks now. It makes no difference whatsoever whether the fight is at 145 or 147. It's just a formality.

[WhoreUs]

Vacate the title if this happens cotto

if cotto vacates , wbo will put the title up for grabs as a vacant belt.

i bet you the ibf is kicking themselves for scheduling a vacant belt fight.

if cotto vacates the wbo , they could have stepped in and put the ibf up for grabs.

[znarfv_y2k8]

Well said...

It is inevitable, an insult to common sense.

Q: is 147 lbs. a welterweight?
A: YES

Q: is 145 lbs. a welterweight?
A: YES - and anyone who says NO lacks something.

Q: is there a rule that you have to weigh 147 max to defend a ww title?
A: NO - And Cotto even defended it recently weighing only 146 officially.

Q: do contracting parties set up official weights for a fight?
A: NO - And 141 to 147 is the official welterweight LIMIT or boundaries regardless of being a title fight or not.

All these controversies all boils down to money.

Co-sign bro...well said...

[znarfv_y2k8]

Its easy to understand as its within the WW range and is a legit WW fight the title should be on the line , its not unprecedented It was always this way , if a WC lost a fight below the division weight limit that he is WC of he lost his title , when the title was not on the line the catch weight was always above the limit not below it , this fight is a legal WW fight no matter what way you spin it , in that the title will be on the line or Cotto will be stripped of it , how can you have a situation where a WC gets beat inside his weight class and he still holds the title ,,,,,,, they wont let that happen .

Yes, agree w/ you...It's already clear to me that Cotto has started to loss his confidence, if w/ the title on the line it's somewhat adding ****e to the fight...The more the fans and boxing world will be greatly excited...If Cotto's confident as a bigger & stronger champion trying to deal w/ a smaller champion then what's the problem w/ it...He has started to loss his balls, i believe his afraid of Pacquiao...

[Haglerwins]

Roach is shameless. I'm hard line favoring Cotto in this fight now. It's like he has no faith in Pac whatsoever. Team P politicing to get the WBO on the Pac camps side regardless of their own rules, instead of trying to compromise with Miguel in any honorable way beforehand is ridiculous. What a fraudulent way to position yourself into becoming champion.

I can't believe there are some of you still arguing the same debunked talking points about the weight in relation to the title. The bottom line is the champ can't be forced to defend the belt under the weight limit. He has to agree to this. What are you, autistic kids? This has been repeated for days now. No one is arguing the weight range for welterweight.

[horge]

By specifying a lower upper limit than 147lb, it becomes a catchweight fight.

The WBO rules are that the upper limit for a championship fight at Welterweight should be 147lb, not 145lb.

All previous title fights that were catchweight fights, were only title fights because the defending champion agreed to put his title on the line. There have also been catchweight bouts where a title holder didn't agree to that and no title was on the line.

It would be completely unprecedented for a sanctioning body to force a champion to put his title on the line in a catchweight fight. If you know of an example of where that's happened, I'd like to hear it.

I seriously doubt the WBO would withold the strap if Cotto won.
It'd be bad press for 'em, and polishing their public image aside,
what the WBO properly cares about are two things:

1. That any WW title fight be held under the WW limit.
2. Sanctioning fees.

So long as the fighters contest the WW title under the WW limit,
any weight stip bull**** the fighters agree on is their problem.
Fight's on, title's on the line, and WBO makes money.

h.



PS: Frankly, I think Manny needs to 'suggest' that Roach STFU.
Right after Hatton, Pac said repeatedly he'd face anyone at 141-147,
and nodded when Shane and Cotto were mentioned. Then Arum and
Roach started chiming in, and there was a ziploc on Pac's mouth.

Throw out the weight stip, and stop limiting both Manny and Miguel.
Even outweighing Pac by 20+ pounds on fight night, I say Cotto loses.

[oc9979]

Rules by contracting parties are completely isolated from official rules.
A: Cotto pays 1M for every pound in excess of 145, as in the dela Hoya fight, in excess of 147. This is all business, not official.

but the fight is still at the welteweight limit. so it is a welterweigh bout right??

[oc9979]

finally some one with brains, these cotto fans keep bitching when it is very clear that it is a welterweight fight. i guess their not sure that their boy will win thats why they cry and ***** all the time.

but if cotto come at 147 for the weight in. he is breaking a contract but he is fighting in the welterweight limit.

[Dave Rado]

If the WBO sanctions it I hope Cotto would come to weigh in at 147 then hire an attorney and sue them if he gets penalized in anyway.

He would lose the court case if he did that, because he's signed a catchweight contract specifying 145 max. (Unless they draw up a new contract before the fight takes place).

[oc9979]

Mayweather/Marquez will probably have more buys than Cotto/Pacquaio and definitely be a more interesting fight. Mayweather will make more money than both Cotto and Pacquaio combined in their fights.

doubt that.
Cotto vs Pacquiao ppv are to be expected over 1.5 millions buys