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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #71
    Originally posted by D-Omonist
    You can win belts, but that doesn't mean you are an ATG. There are many fighters than win belts, and still not considered good fighters. Whitaker and Quartey were good opponents (even though he barely beat Quartey), but Chavez was an old man, and Vargas was not a good fighter.
    There goes one of Tito's biggest wins down the toilet then if that's the case .

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    • D-Omonist
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      #72
      Originally posted by chicano79us
      LOL what a crap comeback. Next!!!!
      Why is it crap!? So you are telling me that Chavez and Vargas were mufakin beasts...DLH could barely beat Quartey (not dissing him dude could fight)...and everyone thinks he should be considered an ATG!!! FOH!!! DLH = Overrated!! His looks and his Goldenboy name is what made him famous. Being famous shouldn't mean automatic HOF, in boxing, though.

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      • D-Omonist
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        #73
        Originally posted by chicano79us
        There goes one of Tito's biggest wins down the toilet then if that's the case .
        Who said I was a Tito fan!? Yes he had power, but I was never a fan. Good guy though!

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          #74
          I can't stand DLH anymore, but he did enuf to be an ATG imo. He just fell way short of what he was supposed to be.

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            #75
            Originally posted by D-Omonist
            Why is it crap!? So you are telling me that Chavez and Vargas were mufakin beasts...DLH could barely beat Quartey (not dissing him dude could fight)...and everyone thinks he should be considered an ATG!!! FOH!!! DLH = Overrated!! His looks and his Goldenboy name is what made him famous. Being famous shouldn't mean automatic HOF, in boxing, though.
            Chavez wasn't in his prime, I know that but that doesn't mean it wasn't a big fight moron.

            Vargas was a beast, and I don't even like Vargas.

            At least he fought him.......who else at WW wanted to fight Quartey?? It was a close fight with Oscar barely winning, I don't deny that either.

            He's famous for his fights, not just his name.

            AGAIN..............IS TITO AN ATG???

            Name me some fighters that won 5-6 divisions and weren't considered ATG??

            You skip too many questions and keep bitching lol.

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              #76
              Originally posted by chicano79us
              Chavez wasn't in his prime, I know that but that doesn't mean it wasn't a big fight moron.

              Vargas was a beast, and I don't even like Vargas.

              At least he fought him.......who else at WW wanted to fight Quartey?? It was a close fight with Oscar barely winning, I don't deny that either.

              He's famous for his fights, not just his name.

              AGAIN..............IS TITO AN ATG???

              Name me some fighters that won 5-6 divisions and weren't considered ATG??

              You skip too many questions and keep bitching lol.
              Yeah it was a big fight but we're talking legacy so it being a big fight isn't as important as the fact that Chavez was faded.

              Second, Vargas wasn't a beast when Oscar fought him. Maybe he was when he fought Tito but that was the version Oscar refused to fight. I think you remember what happened to Vargas in the Tito. Then in his next fight remember he was almost KTFO by a washed up Wilfredo Rivera? Then remember in his next fight he was hurt by his sparring partner? So after all that, Oscar finally decides to fight him? A beast? Come on, man.

              And Tito wanted to fight Quartey at welter. They had a deal in place for November 14th but Oscar swooped in with a better deal.

              Now...am I lying?

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                #77
                Originally posted by marsh all.
                de la hoyas resume is stacked, 6 weight champion, he fought everyone win or loose, thats atg. the only thing i dont like about him is that he sold out and ripped off alot of people in the paquiao fight to cash out for his retirement.
                agreed............

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Yeah it was a big fight but we're talking legacy so it being a big fight isn't as important as the fact that Chavez was faded.

                  Second, Vargas wasn't a beast when Oscar fought him. Maybe he was when he fought Tito but that was the version Oscar refused to fight. I think you remember what happened to Vargas in the Tito. Then in his next fight remember he was almost KTFO by a washed up Wilfredo Rivera? Then remember in his next fight he was hurt by his sparring partner? So after all that, Oscar finally decides to fight him? A beast? Come on, man.

                  And Tito wanted to fight Quartey at welter. They had a deal in place for November 14th but Oscar swooped in with a better deal.

                  Now...am I lying?
                  Don't even bother! He is unable to comprehend! He will just keep saying...

                  5-6 belts = ATG
                  5-6 belts = ATG
                  5-6 belts = ATG
                  ,,,

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                  • Mr. Fantastic
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                    #79
                    Yeah it was a big fight but we're talking legacy so it being a big fight isn't as important as the fact that Chavez was faded.
                    So that leaves out just about every ATG in the book that have beaten out of their prime great fighters. No one is an ATG by that logic.

                    The fight was important in any way you look at it, whether you like it or not.

                    Second, Vargas wasn't a beast when Oscar fought him. Maybe he was when he fought Tito but that was the version Oscar refused to fight. I think you remember what happened to Vargas in the Tito. Then in his next fight remember he was almost KTFO by a washed up Wilfredo Rivera? Then remember in his next fight he was hurt by his sparring partner? So after all that, Oscar finally decides to fight him? A beast? Come on, man.
                    Yes he was, he still came back and Knocked out 2 guys and win a belt. Mosley was the one that got the real damaged goods. Oscar had to fight Vargas cause he moved up to 154.


                    And Tito wanted to fight Quartey at welter. They had a deal in place for November 14th but Oscar swooped in with a better deal.
                    That's too bad, in the end its the same. THEY NEVER FOUGHT.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by D-Omonist
                      Don't even bother! He is unable to comprehend! He will just keep saying...

                      5-6 belts = ATG
                      5-6 belts = ATG
                      5-6 belts = ATG
                      ,,,
                      Thought so.

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