Is Manny the best division climber in history?

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  • baracuda
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    #51
    Originally posted by ELHURACAN58
    Ivan Calderon since going up in weight has fought guys at least 4 inches bigger than him. Its like Cotto fighting Margarito every single time. Cazares was 5 inches bigger than him, and Mayol 4.

    Pacquaio has been great but he's 5"6 and a half. and besides De La Hoya, the tallest he has faced in his career was Jorge Solis at featherweight who was 5"8 and a half. Solis cant even beat a guy with 11 losses.

    Calderon beat Cazares at his best weight when Cazares didnt have trouble, and in the second fight when Cazares came as a superfeather weight, weighing almost 20 more pounds than Calderon.
    the topic here is whos the best weight climber not who fought the bigger guys the most.....how many weightclasses has calderon fought in?....

    lets see....jmm is 5'7 , erik morales is 5'8 and mab is 5'6 ,hatton 5'7.......pac's not a big guy like you want to imply....

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    • Ravishing
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      #52
      Henry Armstrong never fought at Catchweights, and DEFENDED the titles.

      That's not a diss towards Pac, but Armstrong was ****in WWs up, then going back to Featherweight and doing the same.

      Pac's fought in more divisions so it looks more attractive, but Armstrong didn't try to take a shortcut and though Im a big supporter of Pacquiao, him fighting Cotto at a catchweight says enough.

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      • flotorres
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        #53
        not for me because he faces drained fighters

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        • baracuda
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          #54
          Originally posted by flotorres
          not for me because he faces drained fighters
          ofcourse not to you but to the people who writes boxing history, he's most likely will be.......

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          • El Jesus
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            #55
            Originally posted by switch44
            Yes, it does make a difference.. A true boxing fan do notice that. Besides, do you know what's the real difference? When both was still at their teens, Pacquiao claimed the WBC Flyweight belt, while Mayweather is still sharpening his blades. Pacquiao took a risk,
            to overcome the struggles of life. DONE!
            we arent allowed to do that here. how can you just ignore that fact?

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            • JAB5239
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              #56
              Sam Langford beat better fighters over a larger span of weight.

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              • I Rule
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                #57
                Originally posted by Manny Duckman
                First Oscar - Sturm was a robbery
                Second, Pacman beat a weight drained Oscar who fight night weight was only 146 compared to 165 Oscar Floyd fought
                All a matter of opinion....The fact still remains. As i said. Case Closed.

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                • PacLand
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Manny Duckman
                  I used Floyd's weight as an example. When you are 16, you are not even developed yet. Hence why Pacman feat is heavily overrated and Floyd who was 106 at 16 fought at 154.

                  WOW, all that proves is that Pacman can make low weights but fight night is better than this opponents. Real greatness there
                  The truth is he started at 96 (Pacquiao got 10 lbs of metal on his pocket so that he could fight the bigger man).

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                  • PacLand
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Manny Duckman
                    I used Floyd's weight as an example. When you are 16, you are not even developed yet. Hence why Pacman feat is heavily overrated and Floyd who was 106 at 16 fought at 154.

                    WOW, all that proves is that Pacman can make low weights but fight night is better than this opponents. Real greatness there
                    The truth is he started at 96 (Pacquiao got 10 lbs of metal on his pocket so that he could fight the bigger man).

                    You could check HBO 24/7 (Hatton-Pacquiao fight)

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