Is Manny the best division climber in history?

[WhoreUs]

Err....Pac was coming in towards 147 (indeed, he may well have BEEN 147 for some) when he was fighting at superfeather.....

It's just a general shift upwards, although I will admit some welters take it to the next level (Looking at you Clottey).

he was only around 145 or so at 130 for his last few fights.

he was less than that when he jumped to 130.

[JM1]

Floyd was 106 when he was 16 and he fought at 154. Floyd was outweighed by pretty much everyone he fought

Pacman outweighed Diaz/JMM/Oscar/Morales/MAB and many more

Roy Jones from 160 to 200.Roy Jones even fought at 154 once

Sam Langford was a boxer who fought greats from the lightweight division right up to the heavyweights, beating many champions in the process

so were including amateur careers now just to provide an answer? and like i said, even if pac outweighed his opponents it doesnt change the fact that he fought from 106-147. nice try but still garbage. try again

[Shattered Jaw]

Check this:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...6129&cat=boxer

Look at the alias column!

[Manny Duckman]

Got to agree with the Dukman here, he speaks truth. Pac did turn pro early when he could make fly, although actually winning the lineal title in itself was an incredible accomplishment as such a young age.

Cheers mate

Floyd, Langford, Jones... I see a connection here Flawless.

All have O in there name

[fightingfigs]

so what? that still doesnt change the fact that he fought from 106-147. try again

There are too many historic weight climbers in history to call pacman the best.

Geez Roberto duran went from Bantamweight to Lightheavy weight! and he caught titles

[Manny Duckman]

so were including amateur careers now just to provide an answer? and like i said, even if pac outweighed his opponents it doesnt change the fact that he fought from 106-147. nice try but still garbage. try again

I used Floyd's weight as an example. When you are 16, you are not even developed yet. Hence why Pacman feat is heavily overrated and Floyd who was 106 at 16 fought at 154.

WOW, all that proves is that Pacman can make low weights but fight night is better than this opponents. Real greatness there

[Shattered Jaw]

he was only around 145 or so at 130 for his last few fights.

he was less than that when he jumped to 130.

Well of course. Also to suggest fighters didn't rehydrate, eat loads after weigh in back in the day is ludicrous. Obviously not as much but weight gain from food and water was certainly still going on.

To me - it doesn't really matter. You have to make sure you are strong at the weigh in and feel good and not drained, you can then replenish your energy stocks overnight with some food and water.

Look at Floyd - he does it right. He fights were he feels comfortable and only gains a few pounds after the weigh in and performs great.

[baracuda]

There are too many historic weight climbers in history to call pacman the best.

Geez Roberto duran went from Bantamweight to Lightheavy weight! and he caught titles

duran was a pro 4 div champ total and pac is 6 div champ......from bantamweight to light heavy is 11 weightclasses total same as 106 to ww........

[WhoreUs]

Well of course. Also to suggest fighters didn't rehydrate, eat loads after weigh in back in the day is ludicrous. Obviously not as much but weight gain from food and water was certainly still going on.

To me - it doesn't really matter. You have to make sure you are strong at the weigh in and feel good and not drained, you can then replenish your energy stocks overnight with some food and water.

Look at Floyd - he does it right. He fights were he feels comfortable and only gains a few pounds after the weigh in and performs great.

yeah but floyd is the exception. few guys do that nowadays.

most don't keep in shape year round like he and hopkins does.

plus pacquiao is no worse than anyone else.

flawless just likes to make a big deal over nothing. like coming in the ring at 133 and his opponent coming in at 131 is a big deal.

i laugh when everyone acts shocked that he came in at 145 for his fight with marquez at 130. lol even tiny jmm was 141.

how much do they think guys like valero and guzman weigh fight night when they fight at 130?

[talip bin osman]

Not just at making the weight, but at the level of his performances
If he get's the KO against Cotto, I couldn't be more impressed with the guy.

i hav read things about sam langford... his weight climbing from lightweight to heavyweight & all...

the old skool poster yogi has a lot of insights about him...

i suggest u read them... very educational...