Moorer talking absolute nonsense

[Scott9945]

You claimed he ducked them fighters which is just your opinion, yes. Way to strawman it though and yeah it is apparent who truly failed here you're a genuine ******.

You are both annoying and ******. He did NOT fight those former champions. You are the one who keeps mentioning the word ducked and drawing imagined implications from it. Obviously you are a short sighted fanboy who doesn't know when to walk away from a losing argument.

[TEDetc]

He did NOT fight those former champions

I never said he did so what's your point? I already acknowledged he didn't fight every top contender there was.

You are the one who keeps mentioning the word ducked

You gave me a list of fighters Holmes "ducked". I told you what ducked implies and you never said otherwise so I'll assume that's the context you meant it in.

and drawing imagined implications from it.

Okay then, what does ducking imply to you? Please tell me. When ducking is used on people like Floyd it's used to imply he's scared of a fighter if this is what you also mean then there are no imagined implications.

Obviously you are a short sighted fanboy who doesn't know when to walk away from a losing argument

What arguement did I lose? You claimed Holmes ducked a list of fighters and told me you're argueing with facts. I merely pointed out saying a fighter ducked somone implies they're scared (from my understanding of the word and you never said otherwise) which is an opinion of motive. You're not argueing with facts, you're argueing with opinions.

I'm not a fanboy either, you're just an utter dolt.

[Scott9945]

I never said he did so what's your point? I already acknowledged he didn't fight every top contender there was.



You gave me a list of fighters Holmes "ducked". I told you what ducked implies and you never said otherwise so I'll assume that's the context you meant it in.



Okay then, what does ducking imply to you? Please tell me. When ducking is used on people like Floyd it's used to imply he's scared of a fighter if this is what you also mean then there are no imagined implications.




What arguement did I lose? You claimed Holmes ducked a list of fighters and told me you're argueing with facts. I merely pointed out saying a fighter ducked somone implies they're scared (from my understanding of the word and you never said otherwise) which is an opinion of motive. You're not argueing with facts, you're argueing with opinions.

I'm not a fanboy either, you're just an utter dolt.

Holmes didn't fight them, so he must have ducked them. Sorry if that offends your delicate feelings, fanboy. And you'd better believe that I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.

[TEDetc]

Holmes didn't fight them, so he must have ducked them. Sorry if that offends your delicate feelings, fanboy. And you'd better believe that I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.

This is an opinion, you're not argueing with facts like you claimed. This I don't mind because you're not making it seem like you're correct. It doesn't offend me at all the only thing that bothered me was you pretending you were using facts. Really **** logic though "he didn't fight them..SO HE MUST OF DUCKED THEM!" lolol.

[Bhopreign]

I wasn't referring to you. And Wladimir hasn't got stamina problems anymore.

Well nobody has made him fight and when he did a little he did look tired and clumsy against Sam Peter. He definitely has stamina issues which is why he paces himself and even when the kill is there he doesnt go for it. He is like a man in the jungle poking a dead lion to see if its dead...jab, wait, jab wait, not until he is sure the carcass isnt breathing anymore will he open up more.

[joe strong]

actually larry holmes at his best made like 20 defended of his title & fought most of the guys in his time.at the end of his career he lost a few but I got all wlads fights & I got to say holmes would easily decision him.holmes jab & boxing skill was superior to wlads & fights went 15 rounds back then & wlad tires after 8.I don't think wlad is a lock for the hall of fame.at holmes peak he doesn't lose to guys like purrity,brewster,sanders.wlad also doesn't have a win over the best of his time.Holyfield,lewis,Tyson.he had his chance but those losses to guys he should destroy hurt him back then.holmes won like what (7 in a row?

[bojangles1987]

I can't picture Larry knocking Wlad out early, but he would definitely beat him. Larry may stop him late.

[slicksouthpaw16]

And unlike Wladimir, Holmes ducked a number of top opponents. I'll be happy to provide a list.



Greg Page
Pinklon Thomas
Gerrie Coetzee
Mike Dokes
Tim Witherspoon (rematch)

Holmes also fought some of the worst contenders in heavyweight title history. Will you be needing a list of them too?

I wouldn't say Holmes ducked them, and the fight with Coetzee didn't happen because of Coetzee opposing to Apartheid. This was a fight that was in the process of being made, but several factors stopped it from happening.

Holmes has beaten plenty top fighters, and the different in resume between his and Wlad's couldn't be more different.

[joe strong]

holmes won like 40 fights in a row? This ducking thing: I have 2 types of ducking in my mind.(1)rid**** bowe ducked lewis because he was scared! He got knockout twice by lewis in the amateurs(2) the second type is he's not scared to fight him but he's a risk to beat him & the reward monetarily is little.an example is guys & Joshua clottey.many times he had troubles securing big fights because he was a high risk/no reward fight.it's not being scared it's just your payday is smaller & there is a good chance to lose.eventually these guys end up as mandatories.that's how they finally get their shot.

[Poet682006]

lol honestly these euro style fighters even exist in the amateur's, I've sparred with them many times, keep pawing the jab and countering with a left hook and these guys have nothing else to respond with once you cut their only weapon of choice down to nothing. they also don't respond to feints..which took me a while to figure out until i realized they just EAT the shot flush everytime..at that point it became easy.

when your competition is fat immovable objects and you show up in better shape than all of them, it can't be hard.

And that, my friend, is the whole story in a nutshell.

Poet