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  • Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
    Michael Moorer has apparently said that Larry Holmes would stop Wladimir K in only a few rounds. Yes, that's correct. He said that LARRY HOLMES, the jabbing machine who was never a knockout artist, would beat WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO, whose 85% percent or so of the fights were won by knockouts, in just a few rounds. Now, either Moorer was drunk when he said that or he is suffering from some serious form of delusions or maybe even racism, who knows. The point is, this is SO WAY OFF and absolute NONSENSE!!

    OK-we all know that Wladimir doesn't really have a world class chin. BUT! He IS actually three and half inches taller than Holmes and moves just as well as he did in his prime. Second, Holmes had problems with punchers of limited technique like Mike Weaver, Trevor Berbick and Earnie Shavers. Third, he was beaten by a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT and twice! Now, I won't say that Holmes was just lucky to make 20 title defenses and reign for 7 years. Yet we know that that was the weakest era of heavyweights, along with today. If you look at the guys he fought, there really aren't that many big names among them, are they? Gerry Cooney, nothing but a big guy with a big punch but little real prowess. And weak chinned as well. Leon Spinks, the weakest champion ever probably. Couldn't hit. Holmes never fought Gerrie Coetzee, Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas or Greg Page. Why not? These guys were the division's hottest names then.

    Everybody is saying Klitschko fights bums. Bums or not, he's fighting what's left in the division right now. He did beat Chagaev, one of the best heavyweights out there. He did beat Tony Thompson, a solid and respectable fighter. He did beat Ray Austin in just 2 rounds and that guy later beat Golota in one round. Lennox Lewis obviously avoided him. He was the first to stop Monte Barrett and Jameel McCline. The first to beat the Nigerian Nightmare Sam Peter. Now how can a guy with such a record be so maligned?? And yet Larry Holmes, despite all his shortcomings, is hailed as one of the greatest fighters in the division??

    First of all Holmes dominated Shavers in the first fight, Shavers was not even in the fight because Holmes controlled him.

    Shavers put Homes down in the second fight, he also had Muhammad Ali hurt 2/3 times.

    Weaver ended up walking into a punch and getting dusted because Holmes had a Champion's heart, he always came back when the fight got tough ALWAYS!!!


    Holmes would prolly not have knocked Wlad out early but there is no question in my mind he would of won the fight. Holmes had better chin, better stamina, quicker.


    Do me a favour about Spinks, Holmes was well past it then, he was struggling with guys like Carl The Truth Williams before that and he did not look to hot against Berbick either.

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    • klit really doesn't have much power...he gets his wins through an accumulation of several things...and he throws 100 pawing jabs and 4 hard shots per round...

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      • Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
        3:12


        Brewster definately landed a flush left hook, all it takes is one punch. This is boxing, you don't make up an excuse everytime a fighter looks bad before a KO. Foreman looked like hell going into the last round of Ali fight..
        Two things are clear to me when watching that video.

        Brewster hit Wlad with a hard left hook after the bell (around the 4 min mark, after the end of rd 5)

        The ref stopped the fight after the round was over, when he had beaten the count and now had almost a minute to recover.

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        • Originally posted by screwhead1 View Post
          klit really doesn't have much power...he gets his wins through an accumulation of several things...and he throws 100 pawing jabs and 4 hard shots per round...
          Correction: 10 pawing jabs per round and 1 hard shot every 2 or 3 rounds.

          Poet

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          • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            Oh yeah.....you're the moron who sucks off the Klitschkos in his dreams over and over again every night. What's the matter chase? Holmes not have the "correct" pigmantation for you?

            Poet
            Bait rejected.

            Pitiful.

            And pigmentation has nothing to do with anything. Rjj, best fighter of all time. Also happens to be my favorite jerkoff.

            Stop wasting your fingers surface skin. You delude your brain more and more every time your finger touches a key.

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            • Originally posted by Chase8400 View Post
              Bait rejected.

              Pitiful.

              And pigmentation has nothing to do with anything. Rjj, best fighter of all time. Also happens to be my favorite jerkoff.

              Stop wasting your fingers surface skin. You delude your brain more and more every time your finger touches a key.
              You're really smokin' ****e if you think Roy Jones is the best fighter of all-time. What's next? You planning on hanging of Gayweather's nut-sack too?

              Poet

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              • Originally posted by TEDetc View Post
                No you're claiming to be argueing with facts when all you're doing is argueing with opinions. Holmes ducked noone, failed attempt at insulting an ATG top 5 heavyweight.

                So it is just my opinion that Holmes never fought Thomas, Coetzee, Dokes, or Page? It is apparent who has truly failed here.

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                • how the hell would Wlad deal with Holmes' jab. I'm giving Wlad a little more credit than I used to but Holmes would simply dominate Wlad. Wlad isn't a huge puncher, he just is consistent.

                  Prime Holmes would be so fast in comparison to Klit it wouldn't be even close. Holmes had a slightly longer reach than klit as well.

                  the euro style has been around for ages it's only doing well because the HW division is lacking. The stiff as a board no head movement jab right hand style is nothing new. These guys exist in the lower weight classes as well only there is to much talent down there to prevail.

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                  • Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                    So it is just my opinion that Holmes never fought Thomas, Coetzee, Dokes, or Page? It is apparent who has truly failed here.
                    You claimed he ducked them fighters which is just your opinion, yes. Way to strawman it though and yeah it is apparent who truly failed here you're a genuine ******.

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                    • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                      Correction: 10 pawing jabs per round and 1 hard shot every 2 or 3 rounds.

                      Poet
                      lol honestly these euro style fighters even exist in the amateur's, I've sparred with them many times, keep pawing the jab and countering with a left hook and these guys have nothing else to respond with once you cut their only weapon of choice down to nothing. they also don't respond to feints..which took me a while to figure out until i realized they just EAT the shot flush everytime..at that point it became easy.

                      when your competition is fat immovable objects and you show up in better shape than all of them, it can't be hard.

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