Moorer talking absolute nonsense

[TEDetc]

Nobody said Larry Holmes was scared. But you can't pretend that he fought every top fighter in his era. Did he fight the title holders that I mentioned? Or did he fight Scott Franks, Ossie Ocassio, Tex Cobb, Alfredo Evangelista, etc?

Before you call someone else a hater, try arguing with facts.

Not fighting somone and ducking are two completly different things. Ducking implies you're scared, you're not argueing with facts when you say Holmes ducked somone you're assuming he was scared. We could argue semantics here but my interpretation of ducking is not fighting somone because you're scared of them. He fought Oliver McCall when he was 45. He fought Holyfield when he was 42. Fought AND beat a young Ray Mecer when he was 41 (same year he took Holyfield 12 rounds). Beat Witherspoon, beat Cooney, beat Berbick, beat Mike Weaver, beat Earnie Shavers, beat Ken Norton.

He might not of beat every top contender but that hardly warrants an accusation of ducking considering he fought much harder opposition than them contenders when he was 40+. Your accusation of ducking is unfounded, it's not a fact.

[TEDetc]

He vacated the WBC title instead of giving Witherspoon a rematch. That's a fact buddy. Stop worshipping the man. He beat up a sick Ali. Constantly talked smack about his opponents. Terrible Tim said that he talked trash about his family before the bout. The Berbick incident was more likely not just Berbick's fault. Does this sound like a person worthy of worship? I'll rather worship Hopkins!Lol! Ali,Frazier,Norton,Holyfield, those are the guys to worship. And Michael Spinks, who said this about Holmes and beating him: "Yes, I was happy to beat him. He beat my brother and he beat Ali. He enjoyed hurting people."

I'm not worshipping anyone I just believe he'd beat Wlad comfortably and I disagree with the accusation that he ducked people.

[Benncollinsaad]

So it's not evidence, it's an excuse.

Hopkins said his loss to Joe was due to a Thyroid condition with nothing more than his own word with no medical documents you'd take that as evidence?

Kessler could say he broke his hand before the fight with Joe with no evidence other than his own word again with not medical documents thats evidence?

Tarver said his loss to Hopkins was due to cutting weight quickly after the Rocky movie with no evidence other than his word is that evidence? Same as Jones losing to Tarver after cutting weight from Heavyweight

Hatton said Cortez was the reason he lost to Mayweather and with a different ref he would have won, if that evidence?

So when Wlad says he's drugged with nothing but his own word as evidence you believe him with no medical results of any kind? When Lennox said his loss to Rahman was due to not training enough because of appearing in the Oceans movie with nothing other than his own word its not true?

I told you already. Brewster just hit him with a short flurry and he was out on his feet. Wlad may have a weak chin, but not that weak. Brewster had hardly laid a glove on him before that. Wlad complained immidiately to the ref that something was wrong with him. His vision was also blurry I believe. You can see he is signalling something to the ref and his cornermen, pointing at his eyes.

[Ryn0]

I told you already. Brewster just hit him with a short flurry and he was out on his feet. Wlad may have a weak chin, but not that weak. Brewster had hardly laid a glove on him before that. Wlad complained immidiately to the ref that something was wrong with him. His vision was also blurry I believe. You can see he is signalling something to the ref and his cornermen, pointing at his eyes.

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Brewster definately landed a flush left hook, all it takes is one punch. This is boxing, you don't make up an excuse everytime a fighter looks bad before a KO. Foreman looked like hell going into the last round of Ali fight..

[Chase8400]

He took Tyson too lightly. I know it sounds silly, but hear me out. He thought Tyson was just another hyped big puncher with no reflexes or skill. He thought he could jab and dance around him throughout the match and occasinally land a power punch and that would be enough. Thomas on the other hand was a great jabber. He showed that against Tyson himself. He was more of a "thinker" than Tyson. And yet he had power. Same with Coetzee and a prime Page.

Not to mention he was old and almost washed up by then. He was pretty much forced into the Tyson fight and was probably over the moon with the money that was offered. Hell, I would have fought Tyson for the right briefcase full of cash hoping he was still too green to deal with me too.

[Chase8400]

So it's not evidence, it's an excuse.

Hopkins said his loss to Joe was due to a Thyroid condition with nothing more than his own word with no medical documents you'd take that as evidence?

Kessler could say he broke his hand before the fight with Joe with no evidence other than his own word again with not medical documents thats evidence?

Tarver said his loss to Hopkins was due to cutting weight quickly after the Rocky movie with no evidence other than his word is that evidence? Same as Jones losing to Tarver after cutting weight from Heavyweight

Hatton said Cortez was the reason he lost to Mayweather and with a different ref he would have won, if that evidence?

So when Wlad says he's drugged with nothing but his own word as evidence you believe him with no medical results of any kind? When Lennox said his loss to Rahman was due to not training enough because of appearing in the Oceans movie with nothing other than his own word its not true?

With all do respect, I would take Wlads word over probably anybody in boxing. I'm not saying that he was drugged but something was definitely wrong that night. He threw allot of punches and was out on his feet from that and not even from taking a shot. It was very uncharacteristic. He didn't fade in the Purrity fight until the very end and thats when he threw a **** ton of punches.

[Ryn0]

With all do respect, I would take Wlads word over probably anybody in boxing. I'm not saying that he was drugged but something was definitely wrong that night. He threw allot of punches and was out on his feet from that and not even from taking a shot. It was very uncharacteristic. He didn't fade in the Purrity fight until the very end and thats when he threw a **** ton of punches.

Yeah, Wlad does seem the honest type.

BUT a man's word CANNOT be used as evidence unless you have proper evidence to back this up. Wlad didn't look like himself last night i'll be the first to admit that, but it could have been a number of things like not training properly, throwing too much early, or merely having an "off" day.

You can't use Wlads word as evidence that he was drugged though, otherwise you'd have to accept the numerous other ridiculous excuses.

[Benncollinsaad]

Yeah, Wlad does seem the honest type.

BUT a man's word CANNOT be used as evidence unless you have proper evidence to back this up. Wlad didn't look like himself last night i'll be the first to admit that, but it could have been a number of things like not training properly, throwing too much early, or merely having an "off" day.

You can't use Wlads word as evidence that he was drugged though, otherwise you'd have to accept the numerous other ridiculous excuses.

What's so ridiculous with that?? Brewster's trainer and manager both knew how small his chances were against Wlad. So they may have slipped something in his water or maybe rubbed Brewster's gloves with it. Or maybe it was just a case of random drugging.

[-Swizzy-]

Michael Moorer has apparently said that Larry Holmes would stop Wladimir K in only a few rounds.

Sanders, Purrity and Brewster did it, and Holmes is not only a BILLION times the boxer than all those guys put together, but he has more punching power than all of them as well. Wlad would get stopped within 3.

[Benncollinsaad]

Sanders, Purrity and Brewster did it, and Holmes is not only a BILLION times the boxer than all those guys put together, but he has more punching power than all of them as well. Wlad would get stopped within 3.

Good one! I've heard a lot of BS today, but this one takes the cake.