Floyd must've done something great, because he's got TONS of haters

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The point is he got called out, money was there but chose to wait around for the winner of baldy/gatti to announce his next fight. Baldy was seen as the easier fight style wise and thats the whole point. High reward, low risk that is the pattern. Everyone wants the high reward, but he doesn't take the high risks and its hurting him.

There's a reason why pacman is adored after 6 years of mainstream fighting in the states, a guy who can hardly speak english.

Tough style fights for floyd in that weight range right off the top of my head would be spinks/forrest/mosley. 140 - cotto/tszyu. Theres more but no point in going on, fact is the majority feel the same way i do as opposed to you. That's why this hurts floyd. Thats why he couldnt sell any tix for the marquez fight. Thats why pac has more buzz surrounding him than floyd has ever had.

Margarito and Baldomir were both low risk low reward...Margarito wasn't and still isn't very good...

Mosley turned down Floyd and vice versa. There was talk of Floyd-Spinks and NOBODY wanted to see that...Forrest has been at 154 for a while...

Cotto at 140? Bob Arum wouldn't dare put Cotto near Floyd at the time...

Anyone can just pull names out the hat...

[sandyvahra]

i think that when people cry about floyd...they get their arguments from people who don't know what he hell they're talking about...everyone is great until they fight mayweather...then they ****** all along...

the same will go for shane...cotto...even pac...if mayweather beats them...it will be because he didn't fight them at this or that time and they were past their prime...it's all bull****...

You talk like floyds unbeatable. Floyd needs to answer his questions in the ring, not by contradicting himself on a microphone.

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I'm not saying Floyd's unbeatable but some of you talk like he ducked every single fighter who was at a certain weightclass at the time...

[sandyvahra]

Margarito and Baldomir were both low risk low reward...Margarito wasn't and still isn't very good...

Mosley turned down Floyd and vice versa. There was talk of Floyd-Spinks and NOBODY wanted to see that...Forrest has been at 154 for a while...

Cotto at 140? Bob Arum wouldn't dare put Cotto near Floyd at the time...

Anyone can just pull names out the hat...

I'm not saying Marg was a world beater, but the odds would have been tighter vs. Marg than they were vs. Baldy.

How about Winky then? Floyd calls him out, wink says he'll come down to 154 and then floyds never heard from again?

I dont need your reasons why the fights didn't happen, the point is THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN and fans would love to have seen them. As a fan of boxing I would have loved to see floyd match up with spinks/forrest/winky/shane/ & even marg in 2006. Not only that, but the odds would be tighter for all the above fights than they were for de la hoya/hatton/baldy/gatti etc.

[eazy_mas]

Floyd gets his credit from me up to 135lbs, after that he's tailed off. Similarily in that timespan Pac has drastically improved. Again, what have you done for me lately?

I don't know how you think being a legend is underrated. It's not about people talking about you everyday. It's a show of passion, spirit and heart in a sport that is probably the hardest and most demanding in the world. It's about respect. Look at Ali, you tell me he's not a big deal? Duran isn't still beloved in his native panama? Chavez in mexico? Being a legend is about the respect and being rememered when they talk about boxing.

I remeber seening Duran's Beyond Glory.

when he lost against SRL 2nd time and quite nobody was there with him, omly his family, and people even called him a coward, the same people where he helped them finically. When he won the WBC belt all the people came back lie fans again. and he said now I see all the hypocrite.

you just could name few but what about G-Man also he was a strong figher p4p puncher and look at him now. People even dont remeber him that much only mentioned from time to time. only his sister supports him and couple of close friends. Fans? no so much.

[C.Y.]

What part if its ok to lose dont you understand? Its not about losing, its about fighting the best, challenging yourself & risking defeat. Every godamn great fighter has lost, WHO CARES. WINS > LOSSES and if you don't understand that I can't help you.

Mosley & Floyd both have had chances, but this isn't 2001 this isn't 2006, it's 2009 and Mosley called him out on national tv (which apparently is what has to be done to get a fight with floyd since he justified it by saying marquez called him out). Yet another contradiction. Can you connect the dots?

Cotto last 5 years of fighting **** on Floyds. If you dont agree start a godamn poll already.

so you wanna compare 2002 - 2007 floyd's resume agsint cotto's resume from 2004 to 2009?

we can put up a poll, we already know who's going to win, theres more floyd haters than fans of the sport.. put it up if u like

Ok, but again that was then, this is now. And now, in 2009 after the emergence of Pacman floyd can't even sell tickets in his backyard. I dont think you can argue present day who the face of boxing is, its pacman. As far as PPV draw in 2009 i'll bet you all my point right now that pac/cotto outsells jmm/floyd and ill give you odds on that.

Drawing power for those 2 common fights keep in mind HBO promoted the **** out of pbf/oscar more than any fight in history. Floyd/Hatton didn't do too much better than pac/hatton. Going forward in 2009 pacmans ppv will beat out floyds and im sure you can see that since you seem quite level headed.

pacman v cotto will prolly do more than mayweather vs marquez individual wise cotto and pacman are bigger names and have bigger fanbases than marquez. but we'll see, if mayweather/marquez outdoes cotto pac that will definately give u the answer on who has the drawing power

[eazy_mas]

I'm not saying Marg was a world beater, but the odds would have been tighter vs. Marg than they were vs. Baldy.

How about Winky then? Floyd calls him out, wink says he'll come down to 154 and then floyds never heard from again?

I dont need your reasons why the fights didn't happen, the point is THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN and fans would love to have seen them. As a fan of boxing I would have loved to see floyd match up with spinks/forrest/winky/shane/ & even marg in 2006. Not only that, but the odds would be tighter for all the above fights than they were for de la hoya/hatton/baldy/gatti etc.

why didnt Margarito went to fight Santos?

when Floyd fought DLH nobody complained about why Margarito because that time DLH was one fire for KOing Mayorga also Floyd was fighting by his rules and went up on weight with Reyes gloves.

[sandyvahra]

I'm not saying Floyd's unbeatable but some of you talk like he ducked every single fighter who was at a certain weightclass at the time...

& im not saying he ducked every single fighter. Im saying he contradicts himself WAY too often. He says he cares about his legacy and fans, but contradicts that. He has reasons for not fighting certain fighters but then will fight lesser fighters in contradiction with original reasoning. Its clear as day to me he is a high risk low reward fighter. A money fighter. Money ruined potentially one of the best to have ever laced them up. All of the above to me as a fan is frustrating.

[S.G.]

basically everyone loves picking apart at what comes out of Floyd's mouth and pays little to no attention to what he has achieved in the ring

the rule of thumb is generally to not pay too much mind to boxers and their trash talking/self promotion, but of course this does not apply to Floyd Mayweather Jnr, who must be chastised after every interview

it essentially boils down to fans of lesser fighters' inferiority complexes

[sandyvahra]

I remeber seening Duran's Beyond Glory.

when he lost against SRL 2nd time and quite nobody was there with him, omly his family, and people even called him a coward, the same people where he helped them finically. When he won the WBC belt all the people came back lie fans again. and he said now I see all the hypocrite.

you just could name few but what about G-Man also he was a strong figher p4p puncher and look at him now. People even dont remeber him that much only mentioned from time to time. only his sister supports him and couple of close friends. Fans? no so much.

I saw that beyond the glory also. The fact is he picked himself up after that and worked back up to the top and fought the best in doing so. He took challenges and risks. The documentary fails to touch on the cultural difference in panama vs. usa. Quiting isn't looked at the same by us here as it does in mexico or other parts of the world.

I love G-man but lets be honest he was on the cusp of becoming big, not quite there. Not to mention that fight was in the UK with Benn so that makes a bit of a difference also.