Floyd must've done something great, because he's got TONS of haters

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  • sandyvahra
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    #31
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    Bernard unfortunately got dealt a decent but not too good middleweight division

    Floyd has a better resume than Cotto...and Oscar has lost the majority of his big fights...

    If Oscar's resume is better than Floyd's its by very little...

    Floyd could go through Oscar's resume(wins) undefeated...only Pernell would challenge that
    I dont care if Oscar lost most of his big fights, he got in the ring didn't he?

    Bernard did have a fairly weak MW div, but he went up n beat Tarver, dropped down & beat Pavlik. Had solid MW wins, fought Calzaghe.

    Cotto has fought the tougher opposition imo, especially in the last 5 years no question about it.

    You can disagree, just poll it & we'll see.

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      #32
      Originally posted by talip bin osman
      this is the problem with PBF...

      its coulda woulda shoulda...
      That doesn't make any sense...do you want me to rearrange history so Floyd could fight Pernell and Shane and Trinidad?

      Shane turned down a fight when both were in their primes and Pernell wasn't PERNELL when Oscar fought em...

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        #33
        Originally posted by TredKiller
        if he hasnt done something great,

        then why do people talk about him day in day out,

        ummmm?
        because most people believe he's totally capable of doing something great yet he decides not to take on the fights the fans want. he's not showing us the potential he claims to have. if he's the best, he should take on high risk fights. i understand his choices though seeing how boxing is a business and all but it's just how it is. the fans want blood and he's not giving it to us whether it be his opponents or his own.

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          #34
          Originally posted by sandyvahra
          I dont care if Oscar lost most of his big fights, he got in the ring didn't he?

          Bernard did have a fairly weak MW div, but he went up n beat Tarver, dropped down & beat Pavlik. Had solid MW wins, fought Calzaghe.

          Cotto has fought the tougher opposition imo, especially in the last 5 years no question about it.

          You can disagree, just poll it & we'll see.
          So your arguing Cotto has a better resume than Floyd?

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          • Allucard
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            #35
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            Floyd's had more entertaining fights than boring fights...people try to act like all of his fights are boring...

            Bottom line they don't like his personality and they think he doesn't fight the best...

            Some just hate em cuz of his ****y arrogant fraudulent persona...
            But he did fought the best. Well, the ones who wanted to fight him. He called out: Tszu, Oscar, Mosley, Prince just to mention a few, while in his prime. No one wanted to fight him until he hit 30 and moved way up in weight. People also act like he's a welterweight sizelike. he's not.

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              #36
              Originally posted by sandyvahra
              The point is he got called out, money was there but chose to wait around for the winner of baldy/gatti to announce his next fight. Baldy was seen as the easier fight style wise and thats the whole point. High reward, low risk that is the pattern. Everyone wants the high reward, but he doesn't take the high risks and its hurting him.

              There's a reason why pacman is adored after 6 years of mainstream fighting in the states, a guy who can hardly speak english.

              Tough style fights for floyd in that weight range right off the top of my head would be spinks/forrest/mosley. 140 - cotto/tszyu. Theres more but no point in going on, fact is the majority feel the same way i do as opposed to you. That's why this hurts floyd. Thats why he couldnt sell any tix for the marquez fight. Thats why pac has more buzz surrounding him than floyd has ever had.
              I remeber clearly when Floyd fought Zab people said he should be fighting the champion Carlos Baldomir.

              I predict every single Floyd fight preview.

              First it would be why dint floyd fight Cotto, Margarito.. Paul williams and even Shane Mosely who by the way declined Floyd.

              the there is a thread of Castillo vs Mayweather 1 is a robbery but it was actully more of a close fight and he cemeneted his win on the 2nd fight which people alway forget to mention.

              then the Margarito vs Floyd thread on and on. I dont know why Margarito is still mentioned after he loss against Shane Mosely and the his plaster scandal he still having some hype which kinda makes it odd.

              By the way Floyd got 9 mil from the Baldomir fight. as well as he have problems with Bob Arum

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                #37
                Originally posted by The_Executioner
                So your arguing Cotto has a better resume than Floyd?
                In the last 5 years? no question about it. Boxing is what have you done for me lately.

                Overall I'd still say Cotto. He's fought Mosley/Marg/Clottey who are toughter than any 3 opponents Floyds faced.

                Not to mention soon to fight Pacman.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Allucard
                  But he did fought the best. Well, the ones who wanted to fight him. He called out: Tszu, Oscar, Mosley, Prince just to mention a few, while in his prime. No one wanted to fight him until he hit 30 and moved way up in weight. People also act like he's a welterweight sizelike. he's not.
                  from out of these fighter you names Tszu was the most dangerous fighter for Floyd.

                  Prince was incosistent in his training.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by eazy_mas
                    I remeber clearly when Floyd fought Zab people said he should be fighting the champion Carlos Baldomir.

                    I predict every single Floyd fight preview.

                    First it would be why dint floyd fight Cotto, Margarito.. Paul williams and even Shane Mosely who by the way declined Floyd.

                    the there is a thread of Castillo vs Mayweather 1 is a robbery but it was actully more of a close fight and he cemeneted his win on the 2nd fight which people alway forget to mention.

                    then the Margarito vs Floyd thread on and on. I dont know why Margarito is still mentioned after he loss against Shane Mosely and the his plaster scandal he still having some hype which kinda makes it odd.

                    By the way Floyd got 9 mil from the Baldomir fight. as well as he have problems with Bob Arum
                    Say what you may, the questions about his WILLINGNESS to fight the best are there and they are justified. Until he answers that question decisively he will always have that dark cloud hang over him & he'll never get the credit he deserves. If he actually cares about his legacy he'll turn it around but I wouldn't hold your breath.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sandyvahra
                      The point is he got called out, money was there but chose to wait around for the winner of baldy/gatti to announce his next fight. Baldy was seen as the easier fight style wise and thats the whole point. High reward, low risk that is the pattern. Everyone wants the high reward, but he doesn't take the high risks and its hurting him.

                      There's a reason why pacman is adored after 6 years of mainstream fighting in the states, a guy who can hardly speak english.

                      Tough style fights for floyd in that weight range right off the top of my head would be spinks/forrest/mosley. 140 - cotto/tszyu. Theres more but no point in going on, fact is the majority feel the same way i do as opposed to you. That's why this hurts floyd. Thats why he couldnt sell any tix for the marquez fight. Thats why pac has more buzz surrounding him than floyd has ever had.
                      floyd has done better ppv buys even against the same opposition.

                      as for as mosley goes, floyd has been chasing that man for years and they both can be to blame for their fight not happening.

                      cotto didnt want any part of floyd at 140, hsi team said he wasnt ready.

                      forrest and spinks arent draws

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