Floyd must've done something great, because he's got TONS of haters

[-EX-]

that how he sells the fight.

After the fight he will say that he fought a good fighter.


Also when you reach to the top you could cherry picky you oppennet many of the other fighters do it.

Floyd have already cemented his greatness to ATG but he could have fought more for the GOAT.

Pac vs Cotto: win or lose for Pac he still is ATG and cemeneted that but if Cotto lost it a setback for him

I agree with the bolded parts...Floyd would never be considered GOAT regardless of what he could do...

But you did say wat I tell everyone...when your at the top, you choose your fights.

Oscar's been chosing fights for years...so has Bernard...so has Floyd...Cotto and Pac let Arum choose the fights for them

[sandyvahra]

every single boxer boxing wants to get the most money they can



you act as though everyone really wanted to fight him. he's been ducked plenty of times

Theres a fine line between wanting the most money and calling it "stealing money". Don't say you care about the fans and your legacy then. The hypocrisy is a turn off for fans.

Either way there are a lot of fights people would have loved to see which didn't materialize. To say that he had everything to do with it one way or the other would be unfair, but the fact is the question marks remain and they hurt his status today, and they will 20 years from now.

[sandyvahra]

I agree with the bolded parts...Floyd would never be considered GOAT regardless of what he could do...

But you did say wat I tell everyone...when your at the top, you choose your fights.

Oscar's been chosing fights for years...so has Bernard...so has Floyd...Cotto and Pac let Arum choose the fights for them

Out of those 5 names if you poll who has the weakest resume of them, I think you'll have a pretty clear cut answer.

[TredKiller]

bait thread..

know its not, its my personal oppinion,
he gets to much hate,

how is that baiting?
its jus my oppinion,

trust me, this isnt the worst thread made lol

[-EX-]

In 2006 he sat on the sideline letting a lot of fights play out before fighting tata. Marg was waiting with the money but he chose to wait a couple months & let the baldy-gatti fight play out. 140lb div was a waste. His contradictions beyond contradictions make it frustrating for anyone.



He's insecure & that's pretty apparent. I don't think his ego could handle a loss. A loss might be the best thing for him, so he realizes it's ok to lose and goes on to just fight all these cats.

In 2006 he fought Judah and Baldomir...how's that sitting on the sideline?

Margarito was waiting with the money? He made the same amount fighting Baldomir who had come off 2 big victories

As far as 140 being a waste...well 147 wasn't all that hot when Floyd arrived. Cotto wasn't there yet...Clottey wasn't getting big fights...Shane was up at 154

Your division can't be too strong if Margarito is a champion...

[eazy_mas]

I agree with the bolded parts...Floyd would never be considered GOAT regardless of what he could do...

But you did say wat I tell everyone...when your at the top, you choose your fights.

Oscar's been chosing fights for years...so has Bernard...so has Floyd...Cotto and Pac let Arum choose the fights for them

When Floyd fought Oscar he came with his rules from the gloves to the size of the ring because Oscar was a man with alot of publicty around him.

lets not forget Sugar Ray Lenarod did the same he was the best in doing that and knew when to pick his oppennet. He admited he wanted Roberto Duran on the rematch because he knew the latino culture and how the people going to treat him with the lack of training so that is why he wanted an immediate rematch.

Boxing is a sport that you fight couple of time per year. so it good to choose the fight the worth it. Also the more aging the champion he fight less per year like Floyd

why I going to fight 3 fight per year when I only need one mega fight money.

Floyd would want Manny to win because that is where the money is at. Winning Manny gives you alot of publicty

[-EX-]

[/B]

Out of those 5 names if you poll who has the weakest resume of them, I think you'll have a pretty clear cut answer.

Bernard unfortunately got dealt a decent but not too good middleweight division

Floyd has a better resume than Cotto...and Oscar has lost the majority of his big fights...

If Oscar's resume is better than Floyd's its by very little...

Floyd could go through Oscar's resume(wins) undefeated...only Pernell would challenge that

[eazy_mas]

[/B]

Out of those 5 names if you poll who has the weakest resume of them, I think you'll have a pretty clear cut answer.

who Bob Arum?

[sandyvahra]

In 2006 he fought Judah and Baldomir...how's that sitting on the sideline?

Margarito was waiting with the money? He made the same amount fighting Baldomir who had come off 2 big victories

As far as 140 being a waste...well 147 wasn't all that hot when Floyd arrived. Cotto wasn't there yet...Clottey wasn't getting big fights...Shane was up at 154

Your division can't be too strong if Margarito is a champion...

The point is he got called out, money was there but chose to wait around for the winner of baldy/gatti to announce his next fight. Baldy was seen as the easier fight style wise and thats the whole point. High reward, low risk that is the pattern. Everyone wants the high reward, but he doesn't take the high risks and its hurting him.

There's a reason why pacman is adored after 6 years of mainstream fighting in the states, a guy who can hardly speak english.

Tough style fights for floyd in that weight range right off the top of my head would be spinks/forrest/mosley. 140 - cotto/tszyu. Theres more but no point in going on, fact is the majority feel the same way i do as opposed to you. That's why this hurts floyd. Thats why he couldnt sell any tix for the marquez fight. Thats why pac has more buzz surrounding him than floyd has ever had.

[talip bin osman]

Bernard unfortunately got dealt a decent but not too good middleweight division

Floyd has a better resume than Cotto...and Oscar has lost the majority of his big fights...

If Oscar's resume is better than Floyd's its by very little...

Floyd could go through Oscar's resume(wins) undefeated...only Pernell would challenge that

this is the problem with PBF...

its coulda woulda shoulda...