Paul Williams Stills Aiming To Land Sergei Dzinziruk

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And the reason why Arum is such a contradicting piece of **** is because he uses Al Haymon and Goosen as an excuse to not put Margarito or Cotto in with Williams. But then he is willing to have Clottey fight him? Things that make you go HMMMMM. And after Paul Williams wins this fight the ducking accusations need to be directed back at Cotto since he is promoted by Arum like Clottey is.

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Even though I would prefer to see a Sergei fight.....I think he would get more recognition here in the states by beating Clottey.

Paul just needs to punk people out in person....like what Margs did to Mayweather.

Tony didnt punk anybody.

Floyd told him to make a name for himself,then he'd be GLAD to beat him.

He told Tony that right to his face.

You don't go from Keyvelos and gomez to Mayweather and expect to win or even be taken seriously.

[Dave Rado]

Who at 147 fights him at if he beats clottey dave? You are avioding the question.

No I'm not, I covered that in my last post. HBO would put pressure on Cotto and Mosley for those fights to happen if Williams beat Clottey convincingly, and would put up good money; and whether that succeeded or not, if Williams is serious about those fights, he needs to fight a top Welterweight - any top Welterweight - in order to have any chance of ever getting them. Fighting Jnr Middleweights won't help him get those fights because they can just say he's no longer a Welterweight, and that when he was offered the chance to fight a top Welterweight he turned it down.

Serg at 7 jmw, behind spinks, verno, forrest and mora (guys who never ever fight is ridiculous).

Whatever you think of the rankings, The Ring's and boxrec's are the most respected independent rankings in boxing, so in terms of whether he's generally accepted as the #1 in the division other than Williams, he is clearly not. I agree you can make a case for him being, but that's not the point.

Wait to see who he fights next before you say he's on some floyd ****.

I didn't say he was on some floyd ****, I said that what Goossen said was Floyd-like, dissing Clottey in a ridiculous way like that.

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And there are a lot of posters that act like they are fans of Paul Williams that are Floyd **** suckers. But it is not like that with me at all. I just don't understand why people have been clamoring for a Cotto-Mayweather fight or a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight when it's Paul Williams as the guy that poses a way bigger threat to Mayweather than Pacquiao or Cotto does. He just doesn't have the same fan base because he is American.

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But for him to claim that Clottey is not of significance is absolutely ridiculous and makes him look bad and like he's ducking, especially as HBO is keen on financing the fight this time. Clottey is rated #3 at Welterweight by The Ring. Many respected boxing analysts thought Clottey did just enough to win against Cotto. Williams has been saying for ages that he is still a natural Welterweight and that he'll drop down to Welterweight the moment any of the top fighters agrees to fight him. He's also been saying that none of them will fight him because they're all too scared. Clottey is one of the top Welterweights, and he has called Williams' bluff. By trying to avoid a fight with Clottey now that Clottey has called him out, Williams looks like the biggest ***** since Felix the Cat. I hope HBO can talk some sense into him.

I agree with you that in any normal circumstances, Dzinziruk would also be a good opponent for him; but in these specific circumstances, if he fights Dzinziruk, it will look like he's blatantly ducking Clottey, and for that reason it will do his reputation nothing but harm.

I mean, I agree that he should fight Clottey because either
way he's in a win/win situation. To convincingly beat Clottey
would do a lot for his rep considering Clottey has NEVER been
beat down or beat convincingly EVER. If HBO is behind it then
I would go for it if I was him BUT fighting Sergei (An Undefeated
fighter with a title at 154) would be a better move career wise
but Clottey is good also. Maybe he'll fight Sergei first and then
get Clottey who knows BUT I agree if he is saying that No one
wants him at 147 and Clottey is calling him out then he should
go get it BUT this is Goosen talking NOT Paul Williams.

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Paul Williams not only looks like the biggest ***** since:



but he also looks like this:

I doubt Paul williams is ducking Joshua Clottey. Williams Would
dismantled Clottey. Clottey stopped punching against Cotto and
let Cotto tee off on him against the ropes at times, If Clottey did
that to Williams, Paul would beat him down non stop.

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That's simply untrue. Maybe some nuthuggers claimed that, but Joe hasn't. But if you really want to go into it, start another thread, it's off topic.

Nah bruh, Calzaghe did say that Chad Dawson wasn't ready to mix
it up with him and he said the same about Pavlik.

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Clottey called out Paul last year as well, and Williams was keen on the fight at that time, but HBO killed it on that occasion. Now HBO is on board with it because of the fact that Clottey looked impressive against Cotto, and because many people thought he just about deserved to get the decision.

And most people would certainly not agree with you that for someone who claims to still be a natural Welterweight and to be desperate to the fight the top Welterweights, to be fighting Dzinziruk instead, who is hardly a big name, and who is only ranked #7 at Jnr Middleweight by The Ring, is a better fight for boxing than fighting one of the top 3 Welterweights. That makes no sense at all. It would be a good fight in any other circumstances, but not in these ones, especially as he's resorted to dissing Clottey in a way that just makes him look silly and Mayweather-like (or at least, Goossen has).

I think both fights are good for Paul but taking a guy "0" away
along with his title is a lot more of move up then fighting Clottey
ahead of him. I say if Williams can't secure Sergei then he
should give Clottey a shot at him.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What you're accusing Paul Williams of doing is the same exact thing that Joe Calzaghe did his whole career. Joe just sat in his comfy confines in Wales fighting nobodies and wondering why proven P4P fighters like Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins won't give him the time of day. I know Calzaghe isn't really in this equation. But you're contradicting yourself by accusing some of the posters on here who like Paul Williams constantly complain about him being ducked, and yet you defend Calzaghe for the same exact thing. In fact, Williams isn't even avoiding anybody, and yet you're putting your foot in your mouth by claiming he is. I will be fine with a fight against either Sergei D. or Joshua Clottey. The guy can't fight both of those boxers in one night.

The answer to why Paul Williams wont fight Clottey = Joe Calzaghe

[Dave Rado]

I doubt Paul williams is ducking Joshua Clottey. Williams Would
dismantled Clottey. Clottey stopped punching against Cotto and
let Cotto tee off on him against the ropes at times, If Clottey did
that to Williams, Paul would beat him down non stop.

My point was that what Goossen said makes it look that way. I'm sure Williams thinks he would beat Clottey, but that's besides the point. I was talking about how it makes Williams look.

And in view of the fact that he has been constantly claiming that all of the top Welters are too scared to fight him, the fact that he's allowing his promoter to turn down a fight with the first top Welterweight to call him out - and not on the basis that he's got another fight with a belt-holder that he wants to get out of the way first, but on the basis that the #3 Welterweight in the world doesn't deserve to get a fight against him - makes him look ridiculous and like a ducker. Goossen has certainly done him no favours, and if I were Williams I would issue a statement saying that Clottey does deserve to fight him, and that if the Dzinziruk fight falls through, he'll fight him next, and failing that, he'll probably fight him after Dzinziruk.