Wheres the hate for Cotto vs. Pac???.....Double standards huh?.

[Ray Ray]

Anotha whinyass 'double standards against Mr boat buyer thread' huh? Burner you supposed to be leadin Pwill army now. I certainly agree witchu Pac-Cotto is bull****, but shouldn't Mr boat buyer mafia be in charge of these kinda threads homey?

Mangler, you always do this **** homeboy...You ***** and moan about fans making threads but I've yet to see you say anything to the detractors who make countless of hate threads...if you want to play NSB police..at least get on your **** and bash other for making hate threads as well..Thats some fake ass **** you pulling homeboy!

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Logic isn't common amongst the Mayweather nuthuggers.

I know **** is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ravishing]

If Cotto and Mos stepped away and came back KNOWING that they were going to set up a SUPERFIGHT with Manny so they fought the guy they say beat him twice, to kinda of prove a point, I woulD HAVE NO GRIPE AT ALL. THAT'S MY WORD AND MY WORD IS LAW WITH ME. However, I get frustrated about this whole thing MAINLY because this is his FIRST fight back and I can understand WHY he picked JMM. He did it to beat the guy that Manny struggled with, then he wants to beat Manny. The fight is at 144 contrary to the reports that said it was at 147 sir. I believe that he is REALLY trying to prove THAT point. I get even MORE frustrated when guys on here want the man to fight all these fighters in ONE NIGHT. But this isn't new at all. Whenever he is about to fight one fighter, we here a BUNCH of people saying that he shouldn't fight him and fight x,y,z, so this isn't new. I just wish people would be realistic and understand that he has nothing but TIME as this point. He just came back. BTW When very good fighters have long layoffs and come back, they ALWAYS expected to with this first fight back, so that as an excuse isn't a good one.

Nah dude, it isn't about people wanting Floyd to jump right into risky fights. I for 1 was hoping Floyd would have a tune up fight before a match up with Pacquiao so there would be no excuses about Floyd's performance.

But this is why I find a problem with him going after Marquez:

Considering Floyd is the self proclaimed draw in the sport, wouldn't one assume that him fighting even a top 10 (let's say 10) fighter would generate buzz based off Floyd's name alone? Oscar fought guys who werent necessarily top 10 fighters throughout his career, but somehow he managed to pack the house. Can we say the same for Floyd prior to his fights with Hatton and Oscar? Definitely not, and honestly...that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The problem is when a guy like Floyd sells himself higher than what he's actually worth in the big scheme of things. The reasons for Floyd not fighting a Mosley or Cotto have been presumably based on the lack of money both guys would bring in. But how much of that is really credible? Both Cotto and Mosley have fought in front of sold out crowds with THEM being the headliners, so how can one look at that and say based on their track record a Cotto or Mosley fight wouldn't contribute heavily into a proposed fight with Floyd? But we're supposed to go ahead and buy Floyd vs Marquez? The cards don't add up.

People have been wanting to see Floyd take the risky fights that could indeed put him on another level in the sport, but when his choice is to fight Marquez thinking that'll both make him look good AND bring in a lot of money, it puts a sour taste in people's mouths. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with hating Floyd...we as fans have just gotten tired of the same ol' scheme and now that Manny Pacquiao has filled the void of the action fighter who takes all the challenges we wanted to see Floyd take, its clear as day why now Floyd is in the position he's in.

Boxing will not wait for Floyd Mayweather.

[PRp4p757]

Hmmm so Cotto can fight Pac..........

But when Floyd fights JMM its a problem........

Interesting.

Your supplying plenty of hate for the whole forum.

[fightfan_79]

Nah dude, it isn't about people wanting Floyd to jump right into risky fights. I for 1 was hoping Floyd would have a tune up fight before a match up with Pacquiao so there would be no excuses about Floyd's performance.

But this is why I find a problem with him going after Marquez:

Considering Floyd is the self proclaimed draw in the sport, wouldn't one assume that him fighting even a top 10 (let's say 10) fighter would generate buzz based off Floyd's name alone? Oscar fought guys who werent necessarily top 10 fighters throughout his career, but somehow he managed to pack the house. Can we say the same for Floyd prior to his fights with Hatton and Oscar? Definitely not, and honestly...that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The problem is when a guy like Floyd sells himself higher than what he's actually worth in the big scheme of things. The reasons for Floyd not fighting a Mosley or Cotto have been presumably based on the lack of money both guys would bring in. But how much of that is really credible? Both Cotto and Mosley have fought in front of sold out crowds with THEM being the headliners, so how can one look at that and say based on their track record a Cotto or Mosley fight wouldn't contribute heavily into a proposed fight with Floyd? But we're supposed to go ahead and buy Floyd vs Marquez? The cards don't add up.

People have been wanting to see Floyd take the risky fights that could indeed put him on another level in the sport, but when his choice is to fight Marquez thinking that'll both make him look good AND bring in a lot of money, it puts a sour taste in people's mouths. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with hating Floyd...we as fans have just gotten tired of the same ol' scheme and now that Manny Pacquiao has filled the void of the action fighter who takes all the challenges we wanted to see Floyd take, its clear as day why now Floyd is in the position he's in.

Boxing will not wait for Floyd Mayweather.

Best post I've read all day.....

[chinoy]

To be honest with you, I don't think no one in here is trying to convince you to like him. The basis of this thread was to show that if May is getting blasted for fighting a smaller fighter in JMM, why ISN'T Cotto getting blasted for doing the same thing. That was the point. But as you stated above, you are able to feel however you want to about him, etc. feel me?

Pacquiao already fought 2x above 135 lbs....once at 147lbs and once at 140 lbs AND PACQUIAO WON both fights convincingly.....

JMM NEVER fought above 135lbs and we all know that PBF is no pushover as he was the former #1 P4P and Welterweight champion....

comparing both men is like comparing apples and oranges....

[HeartAttack]

Great post I gave you green K but you never once mentioned Mosley who just took out Margarito. You don;t think Cotto should rematch Mosley and unify and see if he can reclaim the Ring and Lineal titles? Then maybe a rematch with Clottey or margarito to revenge his loss or put some issues to bed about who won the fight on June 13th?....Lefty

thx for the K. I have no idea why I left Mosley out. Poor guy can't get a fight, or even into my post. Cotto/Mosley II would be a very good fight again and one that could easily be made. Avenging a loss to Margarito might do something for his psyche, but as a fan of the sport and someone who calls a lot of fighters friends and I put on the gloves from time to time, I say *** Margarito and his cheating ways. He doesn't deserve to fight again, let alone make the type of money a rematch with Cotto would provide him. Your right, though, a linear champion is always needed, and Cotto/Mosley gives us that. So, with that said, a four fight plan for Cotto covering the next year would put away any doubts about him as a fighter and his legacy.

1) Since it's all but signed as is a good fight for the sport, first fight goes to Manny Pacquiao. It's a winnable fight for Miguel if he keeps his hands busy and slows Manny down with a dedicated body attack.

2) We need a lineaer champion at welterweight, and a rematch with Mosley gives us that and it just makes sense (even if I forget about it in that prolonged post I had)

3) A rematch with Joshua Clottey. I like Berto/Clottey, and and even Williams/Clottey. Don't see Joshua getting by Paul, but I do see him eating up Berto and that speed. It's not a given that Miguel gets by Shane. If both men have lost, then thats fine, it's still a very good fight. If both win, then Cotto defends the welterweight title against a very deserving opponent in a fight that will have much intrigue.

4) And should Cotto emerge victorious in fights 2 and 3 (fight 1 is really immaterial to the welterweights) a final showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. We've clamoured about for this fight for some time now, and the revenue generated by it would be enough to entice Mayweather to finally engage Cotto inside the ring. At this juncture, a lot of questions will have been answered by Cotto and Mayweather would get his chance to fulfill his proclamations.

[BOOMbip]

While I do think May gets massive amount of hate in this forum...I think a lot of fighters with big fan bases get hated on.

and it's the over zealous fans that bring on the hate.

The only difference in May's case is that he too breeds contempt with his attitude(be it an act or not)

So yea there is an amount of a backlash that comes with that.

Cause not only do his fans bring that hate on him...but he does to...unlike the other fighters.

I am a Cotto fan...I like to think i'm level headed...but there are others that are full blow stans.

So that makes people hate on Cotto...But Cotto himself is a likeable dude and is pretty humble at least to the media....So thats the difference.

May gets hated on cause of his bias fans and because he basically acts like a huge **** every time there's a camera in his face...He gets the double whammy of hate...deserved or not.

^^^^^^^^

[joseph5620]

Mangler, you always do this **** homeboy...You ***** and moan about fans making threads but I've yet to see you say anything to the detractors who make countless of hate threads...if you want to play NSB police..at least get on your **** and bash other for making hate threads as well..Thats some fake ass **** you pulling homeboy!

Co sign, Ray.

[Danny Gunz]

pac already proved he has a right to be fighting these guys... and either way i never had a problem with weight in floyd-jmm