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  • baracuda
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    #51
    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
    Fanny Pac isn't good enuff to carry Duran's spit bucket.
    and you aint good enough as a house pet....

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      #52
      Two different animals, but they are both animals in the ring. That is how I compare them. Both of them want to tear your head off. Manny will apologize afterwards, while Duran would push or spit on his opponent after the fight!hehe

      Although they are so different, Manny gives you that Duran "feel" in the ring. Same as Tyson did. Tyson was cut from the same mold they were cut from. It is a rare killer instinct where I honestly believe that none of those 3, want nothing but pure blood and mayhem once the first bell rings. It is an old school brutality type of thing. Manny has some of that.

      There have been many Mexicans that give the same feel also. First and foremost in my mind was Barrera
      Last edited by deanrw; 06-13-2009, 08:38 AM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        How come these two have never been compared. I swear, Pacquiao looks just like Duran "style wise" when fighting. Besides the fact that Duran is orthodox and Pacquiao is southpaw. They fight eerily similar. They both have that hop that they do, they both throw punches kinda the same. Its odd, watch Roberto Duran at lightweight and then watch Pacquiao-JMM or something recent not back when he was 16. They fight the same but with different stances. Watch Duran fight but with the intent to compare him to Pacquiao, its a way better comparison than Pacquiao-Armstrong, in my opinion.

        I bring it up because I dont think the comparison has ever been made even thoughI think its the best comparison with Pacquiao to a retired atg.
        I compare them all the time when I say that Pac is a fake little guy like Duran. They get credit for jumping all these weights when in reality they were never little guys anyways. They just killed themselves to make weight and thats why Duran is huge now. Both guys shouldve never been fighting at those lower weights but they tried to go down as far as possible to get a big advantage.

        As for fighting, the 2 arent really anything alike. Pac was seen as one demensional until very recently while alot of people think Duran is one of the most complete fighters and great boxers of all time. His D was all time elite and he could throw a variety of punches with his O

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          #54
          Honestly, I don't think they fight anything alike stylewise.

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          • them_apples
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            #55
            the only similarity is the wide stance and the sort of leaping in while the opponent is withdrawing his punch ability. This sort of gives that impression that you see when Duran lands a hard to reach punch, much like Pacquiao.

            Other than that, Pacquiao kinda fights his own way - like a mongoose.

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              #56
              Originally posted by DLT
              I compare them all the time when I say that Pac is a fake little guy like Duran. They get credit for jumping all these weights when in reality they were never little guys anyways. They just killed themselves to make weight and thats why Duran is huge now. Both guys shouldve never been fighting at those lower weights but they tried to go down as far as possible to get a big advantage.

              As for fighting, the 2 arent really anything alike. Pac was seen as one demensional until very recently while alot of people think Duran is one of the most complete fighters and great boxers of all time. His D was all time elite and he could throw a variety of punches with his O
              Duran was pretty one dimensional in his early years to. By the time he was a WW he was a very, very well rounded fighter.

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                #57
                "but Pacquiao trumps him in arsenal of punches."


                that **** their had me laughing pac in no way has a better arsenal of punches.

                but one thing we can all agree is that pac and duran training ethic was in sane. when i saw pac train for the first time the thing that poped in my head was this mother f'er trains like duran.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  I compare them all the time when I say that Pac is a fake little guy like Duran. They get credit for jumping all these weights when in reality they were never little guys anyways. They just killed themselves to make weight and thats why Duran is huge now. Both guys shouldve never been fighting at those lower weights but they tried to go down as far as possible to get a big advantage.
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                  Man, that's ridiculous. Duran was never bigger than any of his LW opponents and was, in fact, often smaller than them. He is the same size as Pac.

                  Or, if you want to look at it like this: Leonard had a nearly ten inch reach advantage, and four inch height advantage. Duran was always a small guy and after leaving LW was never bigger than an opponent, quite literally. All of his opponents after LW were a lot bigger than him.

                  Duran is fat, very fat in fact, not huge. He is no bigger than any LW that's fighting today. Mayweather started at 130 and he is considered a small WW today and yet he is a lot bigger than Duran ever was! Two inches taller and a six inch reach advantage! Aren't you one of the guys that always says that Mayweather's a tiny WW and too small? He's a hell of a lot bigger than Duran ever was.

                  Mayweather was 5 8", with a 72" reach! Duran was 5 6" with a 66" reach (some records list him as 5 6" 1/2 or even 5 7" but his exact height is 5 6"). That's pretty small for a huge 'fake' little guy. So, if he's a fake little guy that is actually huge how do you figure that when he was fighting Leonard who was a ****e load bigger at just WW or Barkley, who at MW was 6 1" with a 74" reach! and everyone in between like Moore, who was similar to Leonard, Hagler, Hearns etc etc. All way bigger!

                  What about his main LW opponent Ken Buchanan? He was over 5 7" with a 70" reach. That's a decent amount bigger. 'Fake' little guy my arse! He was genuinely a small guy that was just damn good. Try watching his LW fights before he started eating and partying like a massive fat arse bastard, because he is small. Naturally small.

                  Or, if he is actually really big, find one WW today that is only 5 6" with a 66" reach. I think you'll find most guys above bantamweight are about the same size as him which was where he started. Small guy, not big.

                  I can understand the Pac thing because he's rarely been smaller than an opponent apart from Oscar, but Duran, no.
                  Last edited by BennyST; 06-13-2009, 09:41 AM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by them_apples
                    Duran was pretty one dimensional in his early years to. By the time he was a WW he was a very, very well rounded fighter.
                    Name one fight in which he shows he is one dimensional from his LW days? One fight. If you think he was one dimensional, you haven't see him. Early on he was still highly versatile. Very crazy and overly wild too, but still very versatile. Check out his right overhand counters against Buchanan over the jab. That ****e doesn't come from a one dimensional fighter. Or his fight with Hec Thompson. He uses every punch in the book.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BennyST
                      Man, that's ridiculous. Duran was never bigger than any of his LW opponents and was, in fact, often smaller than them. He is the same size as Pac.

                      Or, if you want to look at it like this: Leonard had a nearly ten inch reach advantage, and four inch height advantage. Duran was always a small guy and after leaving LW was never bigger than an opponent, quite literally. All of his opponents after LW were a lot bigger than him.

                      Duran is fat, very fat in fact, not huge. He is no bigger than any LW that's fighting today. Mayweather started at 130 and he is considered a small WW today and yet he is a lot bigger than Duran ever was! Two inches taller and a six inch reach advantage! Aren't you one of the guys that always says that Mayweather's a tiny WW and too small? He's a hell of a lot bigger than Duran ever was.

                      Mayweather was 5 8", with a 72" reach! Duran was 5 6" with a 66" reach (some records list him as 5 6" 1/2 or even 5 7" but his exact height is 5 6"). That's pretty small for a huge 'fake' little guy. So, if he's a fake little guy that is actually huge how do you figure that when he was fighting Leonard who was a ****e load bigger at just WW or Barkley, who at MW was 6 1" with a 74" reach! and everyone in between like Moore, who was similar to Leonard, Hagler, Hearns etc etc. All way bigger!

                      What about his main LW opponent Ken Buchanan? He was over 5 7" with a 70" reach. That's a decent amount bigger. 'Fake' little guy my arse! He was genuinely a small guy that was just damn good. Try watching his LW fights before he started eating and partying like a massive fat arse bastard, because he is small. Naturally small.

                      Or, if he is actually really big, find one WW today that is only 5 6" with a 66" reach. I think you'll find most guys above bantamweight are about the same size as him which was where he started. Small guy, not big.

                      I can understand the Pac thing because he's rarely been smaller than an opponent apart from Oscar, but Duran, no.
                      What are you talkin about? I hate it when people on here talk like you. All you guys talk about is height & length. That dont mean ****. Look at Paul Williams & Mike Tyson. You tell me who is bigger. If you think Floyd is bigger than Duran then you are crazy. Duran was huge. Just because he wasnt 5'10 doesnt mean that he was a small guy. Cotto is shorter and has shorter arms than Floyd also but who is clearly bigger? That means nothing. I have a ton of Duran fights and even at 154 dude was big and super strong. Stop trying to play him like he's a small guy. No way a small guy beats SRL. He was always a naturaly bigger guy. Off the top of my head right now I cant e even think of a single 154 pounder right now who is bigger then he was. Stop talking about height and reach like that is the most important. The most important thing is natural weight and Duran had it.

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