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  • #31
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
    Floyd doesn't fear Cotto.

    But it's a little weird that they wanted the Cotto fight when it wasn't a big fight, and didn't want it when it was a huge fight.

    Hopefully they'll fight again. For some reason, I feel like if it came down to Shane or Cotto, Floyd could pick Cotto just to spite Shane for acting like a begging, media whore, *****.
    Arum wanted Cotto to get bigger. Arum understands Flolyd is the best but due to business downplays it.

    Floyd Fought Bruseles, to which everybody basically wondered why? Well ccause he's Miguels sparring partner and Evangelista was his cornerman and they wanted to see how Cotto would fare up.....and We remember how Floyd beat bruseles easy. Thats the fight he was talking to Lampley and dancing in.Cotto was front row with his nice eyebrows plucked like...."No mas, mi no gusta Mayweather" so now we know why Floyd fought bruseles...cuz he couldn't get Cotto.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mitruth View Post
      Does Cotto want the fight? Has he done anything to show he wants the fight? Just asking.
      the fight makes sense to make.

      has floyd made any effort?

      he should want to fight the best right?

      not just those who bring the most ppv #'s and revenue.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ravishing View Post
        Cotto is a high risk / low reward for Floyd, but that indeed could change after Saturday. nobody can deny that. All this talk about Floyd mopping the floor with Cotto is so hilarious. I think Cotto would love a fight with Floyd, but I truly think he never really chased it. Remember guys, Cotto and Floyd were on the same ship for a long time and you gotta know he's seen the ins and outs of Floyd and his camp. They are not strangers to one another.

        The reality is that Floyd does BELIEVE he is better than any fighter today, but the fans need to be proven that by fighting a Cotto or Mosley to silence the critics and making a nice cup of change along with that.
        I agree with this and I think many people blind themselves to this point. Its a great fight and I want to see it but neither guy has seemed to interested.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by marsman View Post
          Arum wanted Cotto to get bigger. Arum understands Flolyd is the best but due to business downplays it.

          Floyd Fought Bruseles, to which everybody basically wondered why? Well ccause he's Miguels sparring partner and Evangelista was his cornerman and they wanted to see how Cotto would fare up.....and We remember how Floyd beat bruseles easy. Thats the fight he was talking to Lampley and dancing in.Cotto was front row with his nice eyebrows plucked like...."No mas, mi no gusta Mayweather" so now we know why Floyd fought bruseles...cuz he couldn't get Cotto.
          LOL that's funny. Cotto wasn't on Floyd's level at that point. You truly believe Cotto is as sub par now as Bruselles was? C'mon man...

          It's all about business. Floyd saw high risk / low dollar signs in a fight with Cotto then and possibly even now. He may believe he could beat Miguel, but the smart money was on fighting guys like Oscar and Hatton who posed not as much of a threat stylistically compared to a strong WW like Cotto who Floyd up to this point hasn't faced while being a WW himself.

          Like Ellerbe said...The facts

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          • #35
            Originally posted by marsman View Post
            Arum wanted Cotto to get bigger. Arum understands Flolyd is the best but due to business downplays it.

            Floyd Fought Bruseles, to which everybody basically wondered why? Well ccause he's Miguels sparring partner and Evangelista was his cornerman and they wanted to see how Cotto would fare up.....and We remember how Floyd beat bruseles easy. Thats the fight he was talking to Lampley and dancing in.Cotto was front row with his nice eyebrows plucked like...."No mas, mi no gusta Mayweather" so now we know why Floyd fought bruseles...cuz he couldn't get Cotto.
            We know that you're ****** enough to actually believe that crap.

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            • #36
              at 140, cotto was too green was stated by Bob Arum....Floyd just quoted it back. Everyone is wondering why Floyd would want him then, but now when Cotto is supposedly a better fighter and has a bigger fan base. well let me tell u....all those things about Cotto are true to some extent, but floyd has also grown exponentially faster than Cotto. At 140, Floyd wasn't too far ahead cotto in terms of demand and gross of $$$ for a fight. Now floyd is light years away from cotto in the business demand for the fight.

              back at 140, they were closer in stature in terms of demand. Now that is no longer the case and cotto can't match or bring to the table the kind of $$$ that floyd is looking for. that margarito defeat kinda derailed him, but if he beats Clottey and defeats a manny or Mosley before Floyd...he'll be much harder to avoid.

              I think the fight will happen soon enough, especially if both fighter keep winning!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rape View Post
                the fight makes sense to make.

                has floyd made any effort?

                he should want to fight the best right?

                not just those who bring the most ppv #'s and revenue.
                those who bring the most PPV and revenue are considered the best though. your rationale makes no sense. if cooto keeps winning, he'll get a fight!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                  at 140, cotto was too green was stated by Bob Arum....Floyd just quoted it back. Everyone is wondering why Floyd would want him then, but now when Cotto is supposedly a better fighter and has a bigger fan base. well let me tell u....all those things about Cotto are true to some extent, but floyd has also grown exponentially faster than Cotto. At 140, Floyd wasn't too far ahead cotto in terms of demand and gross of $$$ for a fight. Now floyd is light years away from cotto in the business demand for the fight.

                  back at 140, they were closer in stature in terms of demand. Now that is no longer the case and cotto can't match or bring to the table the kind of $$$ that floyd is looking for. that margarito defeat kinda derailed him, but if he beats Clottey and defeats a manny or Mosley before Floyd...he'll be much harder to avoid.

                  I think the fight will happen soon enough, especially if both fighter keep winning!

                  True Story!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                    at 140, cotto was too green was stated by Bob Arum....Floyd just quoted it back. Everyone is wondering why Floyd would want him then, but now when Cotto is supposedly a better fighter and has a bigger fan base. well let me tell u....all those things about Cotto are true to some extent, but floyd has also grown exponentially faster than Cotto. At 140, Floyd wasn't too far ahead cotto in terms of demand and gross of $$$ for a fight. Now floyd is light years away from cotto in the business demand for the fight.

                    back at 140, they were closer in stature in terms of demand. Now that is no longer the case and cotto can't match or bring to the table the kind of $$$ that floyd is looking for. that margarito defeat kinda derailed him, but if he beats Clottey and defeats a manny or Mosley before Floyd...he'll be much harder to avoid.

                    I think the fight will happen soon enough, especially if both fighter keep winning!
                    The thing is though, besides Pacquiao, who else is there? Thats what a lot of people are forgetting. There isn't that Oscar or Hatton cash cow except Floyd (presumably) left. So being he said he has fighters on his list, how is Cotto NOT in that equation? Of course you gotta throw Mosley out there, but say Cotto and Mosley II happens (which will probably do decent numbers) and Cotto comes out victorious, where does that leave Floyd is presumably he fights and beats Pacquiao?

                    I think by the end of 2009 we're going to see how everything is going to play out, but Cotto without question is in the mix (of course being he wins Saturday which Im confident he will).

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                      those who bring the most PPV and revenue are considered the best though. your rationale makes no sense. if cooto keeps winning, he'll get a fight!
                      Oscar Delahoya? He wasn't the "best", yet he brought in the most ppv and revenue.

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