Tyson vs Lewis Primes

[NakiFan]

Tyson was even more out of shape then Lewis was, and he was no longer in his prime, his prime ended when he split up with Rooney.

Lmao soon it will be "Tysons prime ended in the womb"

[P4P GOAT]

Tyson apologists dont have a leg to stand on.

Evander Holyfield has been in wars with Qawi,Stewart,Cooper,Bowe 3x,Dokes and had tough fights with Mercer, Foreman.

If Mike Tyson was shot when he lost to Holyfield then what does that make Holyfield ? Holyfield was the guy who had been in all the wars.

[Dave Rado]

Lmao soon it will be "Tysons prime ended in the womb"

That's one of the silliest posts I've ever read. Prime means his best fighting years, it has nothing to do with age.

[Dave Rado]

Tyson apologists dont have a leg to stand on.

Evander Holyfield has been in wars with Qawi,Stewart,Cooper,Bowe 3x,Dokes and had tough fights with Mercer, Foreman.

If Mike Tyson was shot when he lost to Holyfield then what does that make Holyfield ? Holyfield was the guy who had been in all the wars.

He wasn't shot, but he wasn't the same boxer that he was when he was with Rooney and if you don't know that then you simply haven't watched his fights. He had stopped moving his head or trying to box, and had become a head hunter.

[them_apples]

Tyson apologists dont have a leg to stand on.

Evander Holyfield has been in wars with Qawi,Stewart,Cooper,Bowe 3x,Dokes and had tough fights with Mercer, Foreman.

If Mike Tyson was shot when he lost to Holyfield then what does that make Holyfield ? Holyfield was the guy who had been in all the wars.

Holyfield was a warrior, Tyson was not. Holyfield remained hungry until...well, he's still Hungry.

If Tyson was an overrated joke, he would not have beat Larry Holmes in 4 rounds, even if he wasn't at his best - he would not have won. but he did, doesn't matter which way you spin it.

[Benny Leonard]

Tyson apologists dont have a leg to stand on.

Evander Holyfield has been in wars with Qawi,Stewart,Cooper,Bowe 3x,Dokes and had tough fights with Mercer, Foreman.

If Mike Tyson was shot when he lost to Holyfield then what does that make Holyfield ? Holyfield was the guy who had been in all the wars.

He wasn't shot for Holyfield, but he wasn't a good fighter anymore; LEWIS EVEN SAID THIS and so have many others.

Most have pointed to Tyson's leaving of Rooney as the end.

The question to sum up how to tell continues to be this:

"Can any version of Tyson after he left Rooney beat the Tyson that Rooney trained from Berbick to Spinks?"

I made a thread with that question a while back in the history section...maybe we can ask this NSB section.


Holyfield didn't so bad with Lewis either.

One reason why Holyfield could have lasted longer is for another section.

[P4P GOAT]

He wasn't shot, but he wasn't the same boxer that he was when he was with Rooney and if you don't know that then you simply haven't watched his fights. He had stopped moving his head or trying to box, and had become a head hunter.

Neither was Holyfield, there is no way Holyfield could of been the same after his fights with Steward,Dokes and Qawi let alone his fights with Bowe etc.

Ive seen all his fights. Im just not ****** enough to get ****** into the excuses in the numerous Doc's that have been made about him. I guess you are.

He lost to Holyfield because Holyfield was the better man and because he exposed the flaw as to WHY Mike is not the Champion everyone thought he was going to be, lack of mental stability. No Cus D'amato or anybody was controlling Mike Tyson, he was getting in trouble at school when Cus was alive, he tried it on with one of Atlas's family members to, an under age girl.


I know there will be more excuses but guess what ? they dont wash.

[Dave Rado]

he would not give a shorter man an advantage he does not have, thats why Tua got no where near him ... Tommy Morrison could not get close to him either.

Those are crazy examples - neither had any head movement or upper body movement. To compare them with the version of Tyson who had Rooney in his corner is ridiculous.

As for the guy who mentioned Ray Mercer. Ray Mercer would of given Tyson all he could handle to. Ray Mercer gave Cooper,Holy,Lewis and Witherspoon tough fights.

Ray Mercer also lost to Larry Holmes long after Holmes had lost to Tyson. He was good but not that good. Not better than some of the opposition Tyson beat while he was with Rooney. And lol at you mentioning Cooper, who a prime Tyson would have knocked out in the first round.

[them_apples]

Neither was Holyfield, there is no way Holyfield could of been the same after his fights with Steward,Dokes and Qawi let alone his fights with Bowe etc.

Ive seen all his fights. Im just not ****** enough to get ****** into the excuses in the numerous Doc's that have been made about him. I guess you are.

He lost to Holyfield because Holyfield was the better man and because he exposed the flaw as to WHY Mike is not the Champion everyone thought he was going to be, lack of mental stability. No Cus D'amato or anybody was controlling Mike Tyson, he was getting in trouble at school when Cus was alive, he tried it on with one of Atlas's family members to, an under age girl.


I know there will be more excuses but guess what ? they dont wash.

I think Holyfield would have beat Tyson prime for prime, because he too, wasn't at his best. I just don't think Lewis would have, style wise Mike beats him.

[NakiFan]

That's one of the silliest posts I've ever read. Prime means his best fighting years, it has nothing to do with age.

So what you are saying then is that Tysons prime "conviniently" ended before he fought anyone good?