Roach Wants Pacquiao vs Mayweather-Marquez Winner

[JAB5239]

Hey smart guy. 1st of all you're putting too much emphasis on fight night weights. If fight night weight is a fighter's real weight and the rest should be discarded....then answer me these questions.

If Pacquiao's optimum "real" wegiht is about 147-148...then why would he weigh in offically at 138 for a 140lb fight and 142 for a 147lb fight???

What advantages would Pacquiao have to gain by being well under the weight limit officially when he could have weighed in at 140 and 147??

Could it be because they're actually that much smaller than someone like lets say floyd??

"Armchair" just got owned!

[JAS_JAS]

Oh? Which is why Marquez was willing to make the jump to 140 to follow paquiao, he stated that MANY times, knowing pac would be tied up in a fight with hatton he called out mayweather jr and mayweather took the fight. This is the number 2 fighter p4p and you are treating him like some kind of club fighter. Marquez was going to move up no matter what.

Again, if pac and marquez fought a 3rd time, which had been expressed many times, the fight would likely be at 140, with pac showing up at ****in 148 by fight time, i bet youd have no problem with that now would you?

Why should i be apologetic for marquez throwing himself out there to a guy KNOWING hed have to move up in weight, something he was going to do anyway. The fight is at a catchweight, 3 lbs above the weight he planned on moving to anyway.

Would you object if he would have taken on timothy bradley at 140, and bradley showed up at 146 on fight night?

You also probably have no problem with cotto draining himself to an unhealthy 142 so pac himself can have an advantage. You are asking me to show you when marquez has shown to prove himself above 140, but MARQUEZ is the one who wants to show that, and hes doing it against the p4p number 1 and hes ****in p4p number 2. It helps that floyd isnt that far up on the division ladder and was willing to come down, but since its floyd, this is a problem.

PBF P4P #1 & MArquez #2? so that leaves PAC at #3? your an idiot

[Parody]

Wow, its nice to see I've moved you so much that you actually took the time to post this bit of sarcasm. Thank you.

Now, on a serious note. Do you think Marquez will be an easy fight for Floyd? If not, Im willing to bet it is. If Floyd doesn't stop him he'll win by average score of 8-4 or 9-3 after shaking off the ring rust. Care to wager 100,000 points on it?

What is a greater disadvantage, inactivity for 2 years or giving up 4-5 pounds? Its amazing that floyd is getting the wrong end of the stick when he has fought bigger fighters throughout his career, moving up in weight each time. Most fighters he has fought have outweighed him on fight night, and he is taking a tune-up fight with the #2 rated pound for pound fighter in the world who is giving up a few pounds still he gets criticised. None of your arguements in the past have been in favour of floyd anyway, disagree? I'm a Cotto fan as well, but Pacquiao is the legacy fight for Floyd, not Cotto. disagree? Well then its your opinion but majority wont agree to yours, since Pacman is P4P #1, destroyed Oscar and Hatton, has great speed, workrate and southpaw style as well as 6 titles in 6 weight classes, 4 of them being linear. Anyway you put it Pacquiao is greater than Cotto. Cotto is my boy but his greatest win which is Mosley dont compare to what Pacquiao has achieved.

[shadeyfizzle]

What is a greater disadvantage, inactivity for 2 years or giving up 4-5 pounds? Its amazing that floyd is getting the wrong end of the stick when he has fought bigger fighters throughout his career, moving up in weight each time. Most fighters he has fought have outweighed him on fight night, and he is taking a tune-up fight with the #2 rated pound for pound fighter in the world who is giving up a few pounds still he gets criticised. None of your arguements in the past have been in favour of floyd anyway, disagree? I'm a Cotto fan as well, but Pacquiao is the legacy fight for Floyd, not Cotto. disagree? Well then its your opinion but majority wont agree to yours, since Pacman is P4P #1, destroyed Oscar and Hatton, has great speed, workrate and southpaw style as well as 6 titles in 6 weight classes, 4 of them being linear. Anyway you put it Pacquiao is greater than Cotto. Cotto is my boy but his greatest win which is Mosley dont compare to what Pacquiao has achieved.

Floyd fighting and beating Marquez and Pacquiao will definitely help Floyd's legacy...but under no circumstances would they...or should they be legacy defining fights for Floyd. Legacy defining win for Marquez and/or Pacquiao if they beat floyd....yes. But not the other way around.

Consider 1st why Floyd is even in this position of doubt in the first place. The man was extremely selective in opposition since moving up from lightweight. Moves up to welterweight. Proclaims himself the reigning best welterweight in the world for 3 years while fighting career junior welterweights. The man had been called out several times by actual welterweights...on one ocassion directly to his face. And he ignored all of them as if it never happened. To top it off when put in a position where he could be FORCED to fight an actual top welterweights....not even the best 1. Just top listed contenders in general....the man went as far as retiring to avoid being challenged. TWICE!!!!

[gopi11]

I respectfully disagree. No way will Floyd take less money than Pacquaio. He may give Pacquaio the Phillipine television rights, but Floyd will end up with more money, at least 55-45 in favor of Floyd.

LMAO!!! This ain't happening in a million years!

Pac got more from Oscar than what Floyd got, and Floyd gets more if this fight gets made? Arum saying 65/35 might just be posturing, since I'm sure Floyd's camp will definitely disagree with this split. At the end of the day, Arum's target for Pacman will be 0/40 to 55/45, or somewhere in between, there's no way Floyd's getting half of the loot, ain't gonna happen buddy...

[Parody]

Floyd fighting and beating Marquez and Pacquiao will definitely help Floyd's legacy...but under no circumstances would they...or should they be legacy defining fights for Floyd. Legacy defining win for Marquez and/or Pacquiao if they beat floyd....yes. But not the other way around.

Consider 1st why Floyd is even in this position of doubt in the first place. The man was extremely selective in opposition since moving up from lightweight. Moves up to welterweight. Proclaims himself the reigning best welterweight in the world for 3 years while fighting career junior welterweights. The man had been called out several times by actual welterweights...on one ocassion directly to his face. And he ignored all of them as if it never happened. To top it off when put in a position where he could be FORCED to fight an actual top welterweights....not even the best 1. Just top listed contenders in general....the man went as far as retiring to avoid being challenged. TWICE!!!!

Your prediction for the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight?

[shadeyfizzle]

LMAO!!! This ain't happening in a million years!

Pac got more from Oscar than what Floyd got, and Floyd gets more if this fight gets made? Arum saying 65/35 might just be posturing, since I'm sure Floyd's camp will definitely disagree with this split. At the end of the day, Arum's target for Pacman will be 0/40 to 55/45, or somewhere in between, there's no way Floyd's getting half of the loot, ain't gonna happen buddy...

Dont rule it out completely. History says alot crazier **** has happened in the past. Just check out the negotiations for the Leonard/Hagler fight.

[JAS_JAS]

Pac gained 1lb from his previous fight, while Oscar severely drained himself to make weight.

Both Hatton and Oscar were damaged goods by the time Pacquiao got to them, which even Freddie Roach has admitted to.

It's time Pacquiao step up to the plate, and fight a real prime fighter, instead of always seeking leftovers and damaged goods.

the only DAMAGED-GOODS here is your! ****ing ******!

[shadeyfizzle]

Your prediction for the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight?

Dont have one quite yet. I'm going to guess it ends up either as an astonishingly quick, brutal night....or a long snoozer.

[boxasmash]

IAN HES IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!



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