Roach Wants Pacquiao vs Mayweather-Marquez Winner

[JAB5239]

Legacy is always on a fighters mind as is money , its the negotiators that hash the money side of big fights out , the fighters sit back and let them do what they are paid to do ,, represent them ,,, dont blame the fighter for the money divy they have very little to do with that part .

Floyd is an active participant of negotiating terms of his fights and has the final say in everytghjing he is involved in. It is the exact reason he left Arum.....to assume control over his own career.

As far as your other comment goes , Floyd fights at 148 and Pac at 147 and JMM at 144 ,,,, now JMM and Pac fought twice weighing those weights on the night ,, many consider JMM to have beaten Pac ,, now if Floyd comes out and smokes JMM its one hell of a statement in the setting up for Pac vs Floyd ,,,, dont hate so much and try see things for what they are , from both sides !!

Im not hating, Im dealing in facts. Floyd fights at 147, Pac at 140 and Marquez at 135. Fighters train down to there best weight, adding a little weight afterwards is expected. But coming in at 144, for the weigh in? How can anybody say this is Marquez at his best? I don't like Floyd, but I certainly don't hate him. I see this fight for EXACTLY what it is.....another cherry picked fight where Floyd can pocket millions for a fight that looks dangerous because of JMM's p4p standing, but will be an easy nights work for him. This will set up a much larger money fight with Pacquiao instead of the more dangerous fights with Cotto and Mosely. This is all about money to Floyd, and only the suckers bought into the "Im coming back for legacy" crap. Just the way I see it my friend.

[RodBarker]

Im not hating, Im dealing in facts. Floyd fights at 147, Pac at 140 and Marquez at 135. Fighters train down to there best weight, adding a little weight afterwards is expected. But coming in at 144, for the weigh in? How can anybody say this is Marquez at his best? I don't like Floyd, but I certainly don't hate him. I see this fight for EXACTLY what it is.....another cherry picked fight where Floyd can pocket millions for a fight that looks dangerous because of JMM's p4p standing, but will be an easy nights work for him. This will set up a much larger money fight with Pacquiao instead of the more dangerous fights with Cotto and Mosely. This is all about money to Floyd, and only the suckers bought into the "Im coming back for legacy" crap. Just the way I see it my friend.

Mate weigh-in weight means nothing , its water ,,, fight weight is a fighter ready to go and that is his real weight .

real weight
Floyd 148 after weigh-in at 135 140 147
Pac 147 after weigh-in at 135 140 147
JMM 144 after weigh-in at 130 135 and you will see he weighs no more than 145 with Floyd on fight night .

The bottom line fighters are what they are give or take a few lb ,, the 30 hr weigh-in manipulates water make up thats all , its a trainers aim to be as big as you can be in as small a division you can dry out to fit in without hurting you , some people can dry out more than others so that comes into also , like Williams at 147 blows up to 160 real weight , Williams at 160 fights at 164 ,, its all water

Learn weigh-in weight and fight weight and what it means to a fighter because you obviously dont know !!

[JAB5239]

Mate weigh-in weight means nothing , its water ,,, fight weight is a fighter ready to go and that is his real weight .

real weight
Floyd 148 after weigh-in at 135 140 147
Pac 147 after weigh-in at 135 140 147
JMM 144 after weigh-in at 130 135 and you will see he weighs no more than 145 with Floyd on fight night .

The bottom line fighters are what they are the 30 hr weigh-in manipulates water make up thats all .

Learn weigh-in weight and fight weight and what it means to a fighter because you obviously dont know !!

Thats funny since I boxed for years and an currantly still fighting MMA. But hey, its nice to hear an armchair quarterbacks opinion every know and then. Keep up the good work!

[RodBarker]

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Thats funny since I boxed for years and an currantly still fighting MMA. But hey, its nice to hear an armchair quarterbacks opinion every know and then. Keep up the good work!

Your a bull****er mate or you would know what weight means , and you dont and I know it , so bull**** away with what you reckon youve done

[JAB5239]

Your a bull****er mate or you what know what weight means , and you dont and I know it , so bull**** away with what you reckon youve done

Look at this, lol, I've got you so discombobulated and angry you can't even speak (type) english anymore. If I've never boxed before, how do me and John Scully know the same people from the gyms I've trained out of? Believe what you want "Armchair", you still don't know ****.

[RodBarker]

Look at this, lol, I've got you so discombobulated and angry you can't even speak (type) english anymore. If I've never boxed before, how do me and John Scully know the same people from the gyms I've trained out of? Believe what you want "Armchair", you still don't know ****.

Oh really well you get John Scully to come in here and tell the same story about weight as you do , get any known fighter or trainer to come in here and tell your rendition of weight , some how I dont think they will rush to your aid ,,, !! in a debate of who is bigger and what is real size ,,, you are wrong ! and if you want to debate weight and all it means lets see what you know , start the ****ing thread !!

[JAB5239]

Oh really well you get John Scully to come in here and tell the same story about weight as you do , get any known fighter or trainer to come in here and tell your rendition of weight , some how I dont think they will rush to your aid ,,, !! in a debate of who is bigger and what is real size ,,, you are wrong ! and if you want to debate weight and all it means lets see what you know , start the ****ing thread !!

Lmao, take easy "Armchair", you're starting to wheeze and your face is beet red from your blood pressure going through the roof. You can't change the facts that fighters train DOWN to their best weight. Not fight twice at 135 and then jump two divisions without getting acclimated to fighters who are naturally bigger, stronger and entirely comfortable at that weight. Now quit acting like such a *****, take a puff of your inhaler and get some rest. It can't be easy for you getting kicked around like this.

[Doc Holliday]

why arum? why not floyd?

Looks like negotiations are gonna be tougher than the actual fight, if it happens.

[JAB5239]

You know what "Armchair". Im going to make it eay for you to convince me you're right. Name all the fighters in history that have jumped 2 weight classes with no previous experience there and taken on and beat a fighter of Floyds caliber. This shouldn't take you long at all, its bound to be a short list.

[RodBarker]

Lmao, take easy "Armchair", you're starting to wheeze and your face is beet red from your blood pressure going through the roof. You can't change the facts that fighters train DOWN to their best weight. Not fight twice at 135 and then jump two divisions without getting acclimated to fighters who are naturally bigger, stronger and entirely comfortable at that weight. Now quit acting like such a *****, take a puff of your inhaler and get some rest. It can't be easy for you getting kicked around like this.

Training down to there best weight is so obvious that any fool would assume that , what you didnt go into was that they fight in a lower division than their best weight ,, and they do it by manipulating the 30hr weigh-in ,, then they blow back up to their best fighting weight and step in the ring ,,, but you know dont you ,,, mate you dont know jack about weight and its obvious !!