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  • #81
    Originally posted by The Slickster View Post
    This is the most LUDICROUS statement I have ever seen.
    Floyd has next to zero real fans......he is booed in his hometown of Vegas.....

    are you feeling well?
    Wake up and smell the roses fella , look at Floyds numbers with Hatton and ODH and then look at Pacs with the same fighter , what does it tell you ? thats Pacs the bigger draw right lol .

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    • #82
      Originally posted by The Slickster View Post
      This is the most LUDICROUS statement I have ever seen.
      Floyd has next to zero real fans......he is booed in his hometown of Vegas.....

      are you feeling well?
      Having fans and being a draw don't go hand in hand. Whether you hate him or love him you pay to see the fight and green has no bias. Only an idiot wouldn't realize that. However, calling Pac a no-draw is equally moronic so you two belong together.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
        Wake up and smell the roses fella , look at Floyds numbers with Hatton and ODH and then look at Pacs with the same fighter , what does it tell you ? thats Pacs the bigger draw right lol .
        prepare for excuses about the recession.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
          Oh? Which is why Marquez was willing to make the jump to 140 to follow paquiao, he stated that MANY times, knowing pac would be tied up in a fight with hatton he called out mayweather jr and mayweather took the fight. This is the number 2 fighter p4p and you are treating him like some kind of club fighter. Marquez was going to move up no matter what.

          Wrong. Im not traeting him any differently than I would Floyd had he jumped straight to 160 to fight Hopkins a few years back. Unfortunetly your nuthugging fanaticism for Floyd prevents you from seeing that.


          Again, if pac and marquez fought a 3rd time, which had been expressed many times, the fight would likely be at 140, with pac showing up at ****in 148 by fight time, i bet youd have no problem with that now would you?
          Is any of this a fact? No, its not. But even if they did fight a 3rd time at 140, they're both closer in weight and the time they've had to adjust to moving up then Floyd. Is that arguable?

          Why should i be apologetic for marquez throwing himself out there to a guy KNOWING hed have to move up in weight, something he was going to do anyway. The fight is at a catchweight, 3 lbs above the weight he planned on moving to anyway.

          Did I ask you to be apologetic for something? And has Marquez ever fought above 135? If not, you got no argument, just a lot of flapping of the gums.


          Would you object if he would have taken on timothy bradley at 140, and bradley showed up at 146 on fight night?
          Lol, now you are trying to create scenerio's to make a case. Laughable. Lets stick with the facts and can the conjecture, ok?
          You also probably have no problem with cotto draining himself to an unhealthy 142 so pac himself can have an advantage
          .

          actually I do have a problem with it, but Cotto wants the big pay day. Its obvious Floyd isn't going to give it to him at 147, no matter how deserving he is.

          You are asking me to show you when marquez has shown to prove himself above 140, but MARQUEZ is the one who wants to show that, and hes doing it against the p4p number 1 and hes ****in p4p number 2. It helps that floyd isnt that far up on the division ladder and was willing to come down, but since its floyd, this is a problem.

          Nice twist of things with the "since its Floyd". I like how you've tried to make it into something it isn't because you can't argue the facts. Oh well

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          • #85
            This is the most LUDICROUS statement I have ever seen.
            Floyd has next to zero real fans......he is booed in his hometown of Vegas.....

            are you feeling well?
            are you feeling well you do realize that floyd outsold pac when they fought oscar and hatton

            now go in the corner and

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            • #86
              Did I ask you to be apologetic for something? And has Marquez ever fought above 135? If not, you got no argument, just a lot of flapping of the gums.
              floyd never fought at 154 when he faced oscar, so your argument about marquez not fighting above 140 is garbage.. marquez issued a challenge to floyd knowing he never fought above 140, b ut he is willing to try it.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
                prepare for excuses about the recession.
                Yeah true ,,,, normally people look for cheap entertainment in these times and at home with a few buddys watching a PPV is very cheap entertainment , I dont think the economic times have anything do do with PPV numbers if anything the big fights should do better , liqueur smokes and drugs boom in hard times as does ******** both legal and illegal , the fight game has always done well in recession and it boomed during the great depression .

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Brandish View Post
                  floyd never fought at 154 when he faced oscar, so your argument about marquez not fighting above 140 is garbage.. marquez issued a challenge to floyd knowing he never fought above 140, b ut he is willing to try it.
                  Every post you write is garbage, which is why you are entirely in the red. Floyd was chasing Oscars money just as Marquez is chasing Floyds. Difference is....now Floyd gets to fight an older, smaller guy instead of an older bigger guy.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    Every post you write is garbage, which is why you are entirely in the red. Floyd was chasing Oscars money just as Marquez is chasing Floyds. Difference is....now Floyd gets to fight an older, smaller guy instead of an older bigger guy.
                    But the difference is the smaller guy is only 4lbs smaller instead of Floyd being 12 pds smaller as with Oscar , and the smaller guy is in the best form of his life while Floyd is coming back after a long lay off .

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
                      But the difference is the smaller guy is only 4lbs smaller instead of Floyd being 12 pds smaller as with Oscar , and the smaller guy is in the best form of his life while Floyd is coming back after a long lay off .
                      I look at it differently. 147 to 154 is a 7lb difference. There is an 8lb difference between 135 and 143. The even bigger difference is Floyd was moving up to fight the older man. This time the older man who has never fought near that high before and is moving up. It his age the chances of that weight gain having a negative effect are much more probable than it having a positive effect. would you agree? This fight is about money, all the way around.

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