Teddy says Pernell is higher than Manny on the All Time list...

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Pea. If Marquez and Morales could outbox him for long stretches, an ATG in his best class would as well.

head to head at LW pea would win, but head to head at 140, I think pac would win.

[QUISQUEYA]

You can't get more dominant than a KO and looks like MR. Whitaker had really light hands. 17 KOs in 40 wins is not more dominant than all the KO wins Manny had especially against Morales (2), Barrera, Hatton, ODLH.

Pacman Jay,

With all due respect to you, and to Manny:

KO percentage is not the be-all, end-all of boxing. And beating someone by KO is not necessarily a measure of heightened skill. For example, Ali lost to, or had close fights with guys that George Foreman knocked out. I don't think you would say that Foreman is better than Ali.

So, again: much props to Manny Pacquiao. His **** is delicious. But Pernell Whitaker was a better fighter.

Did you ever actually see Pernell fight?

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head to head at LW pea would win, but head to head at 140, I think pac would win.

I don't know...Pea blanking Pineda and making him cough up blood by the end always impressed me.

[Pacmanjay]

Pacman Jay,

With all due respect to you, and to Manny:

KO percentage is not the be-all, end-all of boxing. And beating someone by KO is not necessarily a measure of heightened skill. For example, Ali lost to, or had close fights with guys that George Foreman knocked out. I don't think you would say that Foreman is better than Ali.

So, again: much props to Manny Pacquiao. His **** is delicious. But Pernell Whitaker was a better fighter.

Did you ever actually see Pernell fight?

My comment was regarding the dominant nature of Pernell's win as IMDAZED stated it, if ATG list is based soley on dominant wins then Manny has more since KOs ARE the most dominant way to win. It was not on who was better ATG list. I don't really know Whitaker so I can't make a judgement, but one of the idiots did state that Manny is good, but far from great which is ridiculous.

[crold1]

My comment was regarding the dominant nature of Pernell's win as IMDAZED stated it, if ATG list is based soley on dominant wins then Manny has more since KOs ARE the most dominant way to win. It was not on who was better ATG list. I don't really know Whitaker so I can't make a judgement, but one of the idiots did state that Manny is good, but far from great which is ridiculous.

Making dudes miss all night while winning every round WITHOUT power is as impressive as blasting dudes out and just as dominant. Perhaps more when you factor in what sort of focus it takes not to make big mistakes in fight after fight for the full route.

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My comment was regarding the dominant nature of Pernell's win as IMDAZED stated it, if ATG list is based soley on dominant wins then Manny has more since KOs ARE the most dominant way to win. It was not on who was better ATG list. I don't really know Whitaker so I can't make a judgement, but one of the idiots did state that Manny is good, but far from great which is ridiculous.

False, if a KO comes at the end of a war it is not "dominant"

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Pea had fought some good fighters in their primes, Pac not as much.

Pac has the better names on resume though.

[them_apples]

What do you all think?

Who's accomplishments are better and warrant a higher ranking on the ATG list?

Discuss.

resume wise Pacquiao has a much better resume, it's not even debatable imo.

not saying who would win, just based on resumes.

[street bully]

Pernell should be ranked higher than Manny for now. I think it is very easy to see Pernell beats manny.

[Scott9945]

resume wise Pacquiao has a much better resume, it's not even debatable imo.

not saying who would win, just based on resumes.

Chavez, Ramirez, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Nelson, McGirt, etc.

Umm...it is highly debatable.