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Freddie Roach: "Floyd Should Be Fraud Mayweather"
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if hatton won last may 2nd..
its JMM the new P4P king..
and then if FM beats JMM,
FM is the p4p king again..
FM said he wudnt be suprised if manny wins but did it come to his mind that hatton win was an easier way to reclaim his crown?..
if he thinks like that i wud call him a fraud also..
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Originally posted by prizefiteguru View PostMayweather was waiting! He started talks with Arum because he knew Pacquiao was going to win but Arum was too stubborn. He took the Marquez fight as a bargaining tool to get the Pacquiao fight. He is going to tear up Marquez and people are going to say: "..look what he did to the guy that beat Pacquiao.." Then, everyone is going to demand the Superfight. I think Mayweather reflexes, skills, and left hand are going to be a bit too much for Manny. Mayweather wins by decision in a boring fight.
-yet, officially the first fight was a draw and pacquiao won the 2nd fight..
experts said he lost that fight nevertheless its a close fight because of the KD but its the FACT that he(pac) WON..
-his speed and aggresiveness wud create some problem for floyd imo..
he is much skilled but its boxing when pac hits him hard that wud for a change for sure.. pacs prob i think is how to land those hard punches..
but i believe his speed with timing cud be the key for this master boxer's defense.. i im pretty confident that this pretty boy COULD have his first loss from pacquiao..
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Originally posted by deanrw View PostPac did not say that about Floyd. he was referring to Hatton. Someone edited the video on youtube to make it look like that by showing a clip of floyd just beforehand
Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
Time :57 Million Dollar Smile. He could have sold that to America but he had a **** team behind him and didn't know how to get an "in."
Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostFloyd needs Zab though atleast until he fights Pacman. Zab is one of the better guys to have in camp for sparring to prepare for Manny.
Originally posted by GetSumBrah View PostI remember watching the 1st & second morales vs pacquiao fight & distinctively seeing Fraud jr. in the front row cheering his ass off every time manny landed combos on morales.
yet as soon as pacquiao starts threatening fraud's jr status in the sport he goes fake gangsta on pacquiao & freddy & starts bad mouthing him.
He calls himself the greatest of all time yet his best wins are against old oscar,castillo 2x, corrales, hatton, & gatti. How many HOFers do u see in that list? Yet he's so great?
Fraudulent
He throws money around, flaunts his wealth on camera, changes his nickname to money mayweather, tell's people he's sooo rich, he's worth so much money, yet the IRS put a 6.1 mil tax lien against him.
Fraudulent
Unretires because he wants to claim back his throne & take on all comers claiming he will fight anybody he's the best blah, blah, blah. Yet he takes on a career featherweight but will say that he's p4p 2# & he called me out excuse.
Fraudulent
Says he wants to make money & enhance his legacy.Fighting marquez will only enhance the first part. Yet didnt fight mosley, cotto, pwill all who are in his division & are much bigger money & legacy fights.
Fraudulent
I think freddie just about got it right.
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Originally posted by SekondzOut View PostRoach sounds like he's afraid that Floyd will CRUSH Marquez......something Manny couldn't do in 2 fights........personally I dont mind the trash talkin' if it comes from the fighters.....but the trainers? they should keep quiet and try not to engage in that type of war........Floyd Sr. looks like a ****head now because he rapped his ass a check his fighter couldnt cash.......now Roach is heading up the same block.......Manny's legacy outshines Floyd's now but 1 on 1, head to head at any weight from 140-147 Floyd will abuse Manny.......like the legendary Manny Steward said regarding a Floyd-Pac fight........
IF PACQUIAO WAS THE BETTING FAVORITE TO BEAT MAYWEATHER JR.
Steward: "Pacquiao has won the hearts of so many that people may
go with their heart over COMMON SENSE"
-i dont think he cud be abused..
it cud turn the other way around..
dont under estimate pac..
wat fight of pac have u seen last?
he had improved a lot..
give him a chance he deserve..Last edited by dahcrock; 05-09-2009, 10:02 AM.
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Originally posted by The_Bringer View PostI used to like Freddie Roach, but he's become yet another loud mouthed ******* trainer who recieves too much credit for having one great fighter under his belt.
He may as well be Roger Mayweather.
I'll take the humble, elite trainers, who always look out for their fighters and don't want any credit for what they do.
Guys like Beristain and Naazim.
But I could careless. I love the **** talking. I dont want to see 2 guys that respect each other fight.
All though at the end when a hand is raised I always expect good sportsmanship.
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Ohhhh so Roach is yapping now??? Better get the fight done or its more ducking Mayweather time. cant really say pacquiao would be ducking because we all know Pacquiao will fight anybody. but add Roach to the list of Casaymor,Firetas,Hamed,Mosley, Cotto( which was Arums fault), its getting ridiclous, fight Mayweather plzzzz
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Originally posted by dadd View Postwho did pac really beat?? every one pac beat was on a losing streak!! Eric Morales lost a trilogy to barrera, then erik lost to Zahir Raheem an unknown fighter!! then erik lost to manny pac!! so where is the glory in that?? Barrera old washed up!! Marquez well those were both contriversal dicisions!! most boxing experts say marquez won!! so who has manny pac really beat?? KNOWN fighters that were already LOSING!! now manny beat a old part time fighter!!! where is the glory in that??
erik morales
lost to barrera!!!
lost to a nobody Zahir Raheem!!
THEN loses to many pac!!!
manny pac beat a fighter on a losing streak, why is that a big deal???
oscar 35 years old !!
pro boxer for 17 years!!
oscar has not faught 147lbs over 8 years!!!
oscar is a part time fighter!!!
oscar lost 3 of his last 5 fights
oscar only fights 1 time a year, full time promoter, so what is the big deal??
manny pac needs to fight a prime fighter!! he has not done that yet!!
and with ricky hatton we all know DRUNKEN FIGHTER AND BAR FOOD EATING RICKY FATTON HATTON got K.O.ed by a soft handed fighter floyd mayweather!!! i said it would be an "EASY" k.o. before the fight!!
Most of his opponents thought they are great and better than Pacman before actually facing him, but in the end they would realized that their years of greatness they built is nothing to Pacman! But others saw these otherwise as washed up or olds or dehydrated! If this is your line of thinking then you're just a ___kin' moron trying to convey that there would be no worhty opponents for Pacman out there!
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Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1 View PostCorrales and Castillo should be in the HOF for their first fight. They both earned their places that night.Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1 View PostHaving the greatest fight the sport has ever seen is more than enough to make the HOF. They both earned their spots that night.
So using your of criteria HOF worthiness,
mickey ward & arturo gatti should get in also then. Their trilogy far & away trumps corrales & castillo's 2 fight series.
& i guess sischatwal vs monshipour should be ranked as one of the greatest fighters of all time based on their fight which i think is the greatest fight of all time.
Cmon brah.
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