Freddie Roach: "Floyd Should Be Fraud Mayweather"

[Pullcounter]

Ever heard the saying about the sins of the father? It just makes Roach look silly when he starts throwing childish insults at someone who hasn't insulted him.

It's a free country, he has a right to say anything he likes, including the ******est things imaginable, but that doesn't mean he should do so. I have a right to eat manure, but I don't have any plans to eat any.

roach is just talking to get inside floyd's mind. don't take it personally. roach has said on multiple occasions that floyd is a great fighter.

[Dave Rado]

roach is just talking to get inside floyd's mind. don't take it personally. roach has said on multiple occasions that floyd is a great fighter.

What makes you think I took it personally? I just said that resorting to childish insults makes him look silly, which it does. And I was criticising the flawed arguments in the post I was replying to, and saying why I thought the poster's arguments were flawed.

FWIW, I have massive respect for Roach, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't criticise anything he says.

[SkillspayBills]

Man when a fight generates this much before it has even been close to being signed you KNOW it is going to be big. Ok what place on the ATG list will you put Manny if he beats Floyd and Vica Versa.

[Pullcounter]

What makes you think I took it personally? I just said that resorting to childish insults makes him look silly, which it does. And I was criticising the flawed arguments in the post I was replying to, and saying why I thought the poster's arguments were flawed.

FWIW, I have massive respect for Roach, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't criticise anything he says.

true, but the mayweathers also make childish insults.. do you call them silly as well?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Man when a fight generates this much before it has even been close to being signed you KNOW it is going to be big. Ok what place on the ATG list will you put Manny if he beats Floyd and Vica Versa.

ive said this plenty of times here already;


pac vs floyd does a minimum 3 million ppv buys.

minimum.


Ive got manny in the top 25-30 range. If he beats fraud jr, & goes up to welterweight & win a record 7th division & becomes the only man in history to be 4 division lineal champ & 7 division champ & u add 8 or 9 wins vs 5 or 6 HOFers you can arguably put him top 10-15 range.

thats just my opinion brah.

[Dave Rado]

Roach is right

A counter puncher against a defensive fighter, a snoozer IMO.

Did you think Winky-Hopkins was a snoozer? You might be right, but history shows you might be surprised.

[Dave Rado]

true, but the mayweathers also make childish insults.. do you call them silly as well?

Absolutely. But they have silly personas that allow them to get away with childish trash talk because people find them funny, especially Floyd Snr.. In the lead up to the Hatton fight it was obvious that Roach has too much gravitas to get away with being childish, it just makes him just look silly.

[Pullcounter]

Did you think Winky-Hopkins was a snoozer? You might be right, but history shows you might be surprised.

i didn't find winky/hopkins to be particularly exciting.

marquez/floyd will be a chess match for 12 rounds. no knockdowns or KOs i'm afraid.

[Pullcounter]

Absolutely. But they have silly personas that allow them to get away with childish trash talk because people find them funny, especially Floyd Snr.. In the lead up to the Hatton fight it was obvious that Roach has too much gravitas to get away with being childish, it just makes him just look silly.

c'mon man that's a double standard.

[Dave Rado]

Man when a fight generates this much before it has even been close to being signed you KNOW it is going to be big. Ok what place on the ATG list will you put Manny if he beats Floyd and Vica Versa.

Top 30. If the winner then goes on to clear out the Welterweight division not including Williams, it would go up to the teens. If they beat Paul Williams at 147, it would go up to around #10, IMO.