When will you guys realize weight really does not make that much difference

[Dye]

I Never Thought Size Had Much To Do With It. Look At The Lower Weights, Most Of Those Weight Classes Are Separated By About 4Lbs. And Then A Fighter Can Barely Weight 200Lbs And Take On A 7 Foot Giant That Is 333 Lbs.

I Always Thought That Was A Little Dumb. Too Many Weightclasses, Too Many Guys Who Shouldn't Be Called A "Champ".

The Best Would Fight The Best If They Wouldn't Have The Option Of Holding On To One Of Four Belts And Get Away With Fighting A Joke Every 12 Months And Still Have People Who Dont Know Any Better Call Them "Champ".

There Needs To Be One Champion Per Weight Class.


That's Just What I Think.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I would prefer that they do an official weigh in closer to the time of the fight, but as I'm sure you know it was deemed unsafe and now we have the 24 hour weigh ins. The unintended problem of this is guys blowing up, but we still need an official weigh in don't we? The weights during the official weigh ins often don't represent the actually weights of the fighters during the fight, so my answer to your question is official weigh ins are very important and necessary but the system is not perfect. I prefer to base my opinion on what guys actually weigh during the actual fight, I don't see what is wrong with that.

The problem with that is,


when you base your opinion on that, you're already getting excuses ready as to why a fighter won or lost.

Guess what?

The heavier guy doesn't always win.


I guess we should just matchup guys based on similar hand speed as well because its not fair that one is faster than the other.

Then, we can have a power division because its not fair that one guy has more power than the other.

We can also throw in a chin division because every fighter doesn't have the same type of granite in their face.

[Spray_resistant]

The problem with that is,


when you base your opinion on that, you're already getting excuses ready as to why a fighter won or lost.

Guess what?

The heavier guy doesn't always win.


I guess we should just matchup guys based on similar hand speed as well because its not fair that one is faster than the other.

Then, we can have a power division because its not fair that one guy has more power than the other.

We can also throw in a chin division because every fighter doesn't have the same type of granite in their face.

Those are valid arguments, but can we agree that the weigh in system is not perfect and can be better than it is now? I would just rather have the amount of weight a fighter puts on between the weigh in and the actual fight be regulated by some authority.

[abdiel2k3]

Floyd and Manny have showed us along with many other boxers whether you weigh 135 or 147 weight does not have as much as a significance in boxing as people make it to be.

A great fighter wont lose a fight because its 5 pounds above his regular weight, its just an excuse.

it def does matter
the reason pac and floyd have done this and jmm
is because they are not reg fighters
u see lots of guys try to move up in weight
its a proven fact it aint as easy as it seems

[Danny Gunz]

Im trying to say **** like when FLoyd fought ricky and he got knocked out people were saying "Geez ricky hatton was way to small for welterweight he needs to go back down to 140" give me a ****ing break 7 pounds doesnt make that big of a difference

[S A M U R A I]

Let Floyd fight Pavlik at 158 then. That jump equals that JMM makes.

Solid post.



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[Vasyl’s dad]

Those are valid arguments, but can we agree that the weigh in system is not perfect and can be better than it is now? I would just rather have the amount of weight a fighter puts on between the weigh in and the actual fight be regulated by some authority.

Nobody has ever said it was perfect.

Boxing has already tried same day weigh ins, and fighters came to the ring even more drained out than they are after a 24 hour rest period.

Its safer to allow them time to rehydrate, rest, recover or whatever rather than go right into a brutal fight after weeks of dropping weight.

There is no easy solution, but its also not a reason to not have the fights.

If someone is that good, the weight doesn't matter. Some smaller guys have even said being smaller is an advantage as well because for every advantage someone has, the other guy has something to counter it.

[RodBarker]

Solid post.

If Pavlik stepped in the ring at 158 Floyd would own him , thats how solid your post is mate , thing is Pavlik will step in at near 170 ,,, get real you guys you pull it out your ass .

[Spray_resistant]

Nobody has ever said it was perfect.

Boxing has already tried same day weigh ins, and fighters came to the ring even more drained out than they are after a 24 hour rest period.

Its safer to allow them time to rehydrate, rest, recover or whatever rather than go right into a brutal fight after weeks of dropping weight.

There is no easy solution, but its also not a reason to not have the fights.

If someone is that good, the weight doesn't matter. Some smaller guys have even said being smaller is an advantage as well because for every advantage someone has, the other guy has something to counter it.

Yes the safety of the fighters is of the highest priority, and with fighters blowing up too much that safety is compromised when a fighters is too much heavier than his opponent in a particular weightclass on fight night. Would you oppose measure to regulate how much weight someone can put on after a weigh in?

[sycomantz]

Im trying to say **** like when FLoyd fought ricky and he got knocked out people were saying "Geez ricky hatton was way to small for welterweight he needs to go back down to 140" give me a ****ing break 7 pounds doesnt make that big of a difference

7 pounds is a huge difference fool

we are talking about muscle.

first 7lbs can either slow you down temendously. or losing 7lbs will sap your energy. look at DLH in that fight.

he looked like a AIDS victim. stop kidding yourself and making up excuses.

MP beat DLH b/c they asked for the fight to be at 140. DLH is ****** b/c he walks around at like 160. true super welterwight.

thats why roach wants all welterweight fights with MP at 140. b/c MP is nice and strong while the others have to lose too much weight which means energy.

MP gets no credit for beating a sickly, none energy having DLH.

just like MP gets no credit for beating an already beaten ricky hatton that came in the fight with his hands by his waist.

or any credit for beating Barrera or Morales who had already beat the piss out of each other as well as beating their primes out of each other.

MP lost to JMM

Floyd is going to kill both JMM and MP