When will you guys realize weight really does not make that much difference

[mathed]

Yeah, I don't think certain things really have a true, "best" solution. You change any kind of system with rules and regulations, people will find ways to tweak the rules a bit to their advantage.

I agree that people fair better if they can rehydrate but then you have promoters and trainers who know a guy's body and can see an advantage over another fighter because one guy naturally has a larger frame, carries more weight, and has more power but can still dehydrate enough to make it look like he is the same size as the other fighter. The next night, dude outweighs his opponent by 5 lbs or whatever.

Someone will always exploit some loophole or factor in any situation.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes the safety of the fighters is of the highest priority, and with fighters blowing up too much that safety is compromised when a fighters is too much heavier than his opponent in a particular weightclass on fight night. Would you oppose measure to regulate how much weight someone can put on after a weigh in?

Not at all.

But you can't safely say how much a person can put back on either.

[sycomantz]

If Pavlik stepped in the ring at 158 Floyd would own him , thats how solid your post is mate , thing is Pavlik will step in at near 170 ,,, get real you guys you pull it out your ass .

speaking of pavlik. he onlygot schooled by Bhop b/c the weight Pavlik put on slowed him down like crazy.

if they would have fought at the norm weight were Pav. and taylor fought. Bhop wouldnt have been as lucky

[Vasyl’s dad]

7 pounds is a huge difference fool

we are talking about muscle.

first 7lbs can either slow you down temendously. or losing 7lbs will sap your energy. look at DLH in that fight.

he looked like a AIDS victim. stop kidding yourself and making up excuses.

MP beat DLH b/c they asked for the fight to be at 140. DLH is ****** b/c he walks around at like 160. true super welterwight.

thats why roach wants all welterweight fights with MP at 140. b/c MP is nice and strong while the others have to lose too much weight which means energy.

MP gets no credit for beating a sickly, none energy having DLH.

just like MP gets no credit for beating an already beaten ricky hatton that came in the fight with his hands by his waist.

or any credit for beating Barrera or Morales who had already beat the piss out of each other as well as beating their primes out of each other.

MP lost to JMM

Floyd is going to kill both JMM and MP

Does Floyd get credit for beating a drooling and exhausted part time fighter in DLH?

[taino78]

yeah either pavlik or abraham. see if theres a difference in that fight

[Pullcounter]

Im trying to say **** like when FLoyd fought ricky and he got knocked out people were saying "Geez ricky hatton was way to small for welterweight he needs to go back down to 140" give me a ****ing break 7 pounds doesnt make that big of a difference

actually the jump from 140-147 is one of the biggest jumps.

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Does Floyd get credit for beating a drooling and exhausted part time fighter in DLH?

Not much and Pac doesn't get much for beating a weight drained zombie lookin version of DLH...

[sycomantz]

Does Floyd get credit for beating a drooling and exhausted part time fighter in DLH?

are you serious.

how did DLH start their fight.

VERY strong. PBF put him in that crouch, took away his jab, left hook and ability to block punches with his gloves as the fight progressed look at how DLH looked in his fight vs PBF vs MP.

DLH wasnt doing any of the things mentioned above from the start. HE HAD NO ENERGY. like i said, he looked like an AIDS victim to say the least

ill let you think about it and facepalm yourself.

[RodBarker]

Nobody has ever said it was perfect.

Boxing has already tried same day weigh ins, and fighters came to the ring even more drained out than they are after a 24 hour rest period.

Its safer to allow them time to rehydrate, rest, recover or whatever rather than go right into a brutal fight after weeks of dropping weight.

There is no easy solution, but its also not a reason to not have the fights.

If someone is that good, the weight doesn't matter. Some smaller guys have even said being smaller is an advantage as well because for every advantage someone has, the other guy has something to counter it.

If someone is that good it doesnt matter what sort of open ended statement that is ,,,, why do you thing fighters dry out in the first place ,,,, its so that they can be as big as they can be at the lightest possible weight , its about advantage on fight night !!

When fighters are very close in ability a few pounds over the course of the fight can make a big difference to the out come , if one fighter has more ability then he can give some weight and get away with , its not all about weight , its a balancing act between ability and weight , the fast fighters can jump weight classes easier than the slow fighters , its why Floyd Manny and Jones Camacho can jump what they can and fighters like KT Hatton etc cant .

[sycomantz]

actually the jump from 140-147 is one of the biggest jumps.

so what do you think it does to a welterweight to drop down to 140.

which is what sRoach want welterwieghts to do to fight MP.

you would think that at some point in time yall would began to catch on.

MP doesnt deserve any credit for beating DLH and Hatton who should have retired after getting stomped by PBF.

everyone called for Hattons retirement after he got beat down by PBF and it was for good reason.