Mayweather vs. Marquez - A Worthy Semifinal

[MaFu MoFo]

Great article, we need more like it for this site to gain back the credibility its lost by letting these fools overrun this forum.

Dude, put your hands away from the bong. Slowly step away from the keyboard. Go and tell you mom to take you out to buy some munchies cause you sre shooting your own foot. you are only going to hurt yourself.

[MaFu MoFo]

It doesnt matter who avoided who. Nobody really knows but shane & floyd. it doesnt matter what this writer said. Just because he wrote it doesnt make it true. Cmon now grustlah, fact of the matter is they didnt fight period. Floyd hasnt fought a credibly threatening opponent since zab judah. Thats zab judah. before that, jose luis castillo. Shane has taken on prime cotto, prime margarito, prime collazo. Mosley's roster of opponents dwarf's floyds.

Beautiful post. Completely agreed.

[Walt Liquor]

that may or may not be the case NOW but Shane didn't want it back
then and I think that is the point that guy who wrote the article is
trying to emphasize on considering Larry Merchant is trying to
discedit Mayweather.

Here you go again with the "people are ducking floyd" card. It's getting old. Time for a new argument bro, Shane, Cotto, JMM, Manny etc fight everyone around them, Floyd always takes the easiest fight and has some kind of excuse not to make them. Look at the facts, which are who fought who, everything else is just politics, people talking out of their ass, and nonsense. You don't seem like someone who would be fooled so easily. Also, please stop quoting this article like it's the bible. It's had so many holes shot through it and Jake isn't even defending it. Floyd discredits himself and Larry isn't afraid to call him out on it. I know he takes it a little to the extreme, but he is a TV guy- a showman so he feels the need to use his platform to try and get Floyd to actually take some tough fights to secure his legacy (or at least make it worthy of his skills). Because right now it's going to ****. The good thing is, if he comes back and beats pac and shane or cotto (if he beats Clottey) or some other legit WW then everyone can have a big glass of STFU and Floyd will have earned a ton of true boxing fans respect and secured his place as an ATG. Then he can be like Manny.

[ThunderWolf]

This is a bad decision for PBF. If JMM wins, PBF loses millions, Pac has to fight JMM or Cotto. If Cotto loses to Clottey, Pac has to fight Mosley or JMM.

[JakeNDaBox]

SUGAR SHANE MOSLEY really said; “I want to put it out there to all of the fans, that I have every intention of challenging the winner of the May 2 fight between Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao. Whoever wins that fight, will most likely be looking to add another title to their collection. So I want to challenge the winner to move up and fight for my title, and for the pound-for-pound title.”

“I was once the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. I’m back on everyone’s list, but my goal is to be at the top. Right now a lot of people regard Pacquiao as the best. He’ll still be the best if he beats Hatton. If Hatton wins, then he’ll be considered the best.

“Either way, I want the winner. I want the opportunity to become the pound-for-pound best again. I’d be the only fighter to do it twice, that many years apart.”

At last check, Berto’s handlers were looking in other directions for his next fight, hoped for May 30. Several fighters have been suggested; none were named Shane Mosley.

“I’m sticking around for the super fights,” insists Mosley. “After the Margarito fight, I wanted to fight Cotto again, but in Las Vegas. His people want to keep him in New York, so since nobody else is looking to fight me, I’d rather just wait to see what happens on May 2, and then make a move to fight the Hatton-Pacquiao winner.”

When active, Mayweather was high on Mosley’s wish list, though the fight never materialized. It’s a fight Shane still wouldn’t mind, though he believes that Mayweather would first look elsewhere should he elect to end his retirement.

“I think he’ll come out, but it will be to fight someone like (Juan Manuel) Marquez,” believes Mosley. “Marquez is already calling out Mayweather. He don’t believe Pacquiao will fight him again. I don’t believe Mayweather will fight me when he first comes out of retirement. It makes more sense for Marquez to fight Mayweather, me to fight Pacquiao or Hatton, and then maybe the winners can fight each other after that.”

“I just believe that I’m still young and feel good. It’s in me, it’s in my gut. I can’t retire yet.”

“I’m willing to wait until the end of the year, if it meant waiting for another super fight. For now, my plan is to see what happens on May 2, but to let both Pacquiao and Hatton know that whoever wins, I want them next.

“If I can’t get that fight, then we’ll make an offer for Miguel Cotto to come out to Vegas to fight me.”


Jake Donovan must be in the Mayweather Mafia payroll. I just copied and pasted what SSM said in the article he was refering to. I colored in red everything SSM said about PBF. This Jake is a major PBF NUTHUGGER.

Mayweather Mafia? Nuthugger? Is this a boxing forum or junior high school?

Let me say this slowly so perhaps you can get it right the second time around:

Referencing the very quotes you copied and pasted from my article, Shane made it perfectly clear that all bets were off until May 2, in terms of choosing his next opponent.

For Shane, it was - and still - is Pac-Hatton winner, a Cotto rematch or bust, and that he never had any intention of returning to the ring until the fall.

The picture that Larry Merchant tried to paint is that Floyd is ducking Shane TODAY. He also claimed that Floyd only wanted the fight when Shane was perceived to be used up, yet never specified a period.

Are... we... clear... yet?

And as I tell others who insist I'm in w/ the Mayweather camp - my Boxingscene archive is available for all to read. Start with this piece - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=13179 - and then ask again if I'm on his payroll.

[JakeNDaBox]

Also let me state this:

I will NEVER be the mutha****a that defends Floyd's resume. Quite frankly, I thought his run reflected everything that's wrong with the sport, an extension of Roy Jones milking his lead forever and a day.

2008 began just fine without Floyd in the lineup, and so too did 2009. The problem last year is that once Floyd pretended to call it a career, HBO got lazy and settled for the bull**** they wound up presenting in the 3rd and 4th quarter of '08.

The fact that Floyd's fighting Marquez and not receiving an eight-figure payday to face a $5 opponent sounds like they might actually try to force his hand this time around. I certainly hope so, because Floyd is now at the make-or-break point in terms of defining his legacy. Manny skyrocketed past him in his 18-month absence - he can either accept it and continue to travel the path of least resistance, or actually try to put something behind his words for a change.

None of that, however, makes Merchant's unnecessary slamming of Floyd any more valid.

[Walt Liquor]

Also let me state this:

I will NEVER be the mutha****a that defends Floyd's resume. Quite frankly, I thought his run reflected everything that's wrong with the sport, an extension of Roy Jones milking his lead forever and a day.

2008 began just fine without Floyd in the lineup, and so too did 2009. The problem last year is that once Floyd pretended to call it a career, HBO got lazy and settled for the bull**** they wound up presenting in the 3rd and 4th quarter of '08.

The fact that Floyd's fighting Marquez and not receiving an eight-figure payday to face a $5 opponent sounds like they might actually try to force his hand this time around. I certainly hope so, because Floyd is now at the make-or-break point in terms of defining his legacy. Manny skyrocketed past him in his 18-month absence - he can either accept it and continue to travel the path of least resistance, or actually try to put something behind his words for a change.

None of that, however, makes Merchant's unnecessary slamming of Floyd any more valid.

Jake,

He clearly states that he doesn't believe Mayweather will fight him on his first fight out of retirement-which we all know to be true. Shane already said in other articles that he'd fight Floyd. I'm sure Larry has other resources than boxingscene articles. Floyd even questioned why all these black fighters are calling him out.

[JakeNDaBox]

Jake,

He clearly states that he doesn't believe Mayweather will fight him on his first fight out of retirement-which we all know to be true. Shane already said in other articles that he'd fight Floyd. I'm sure Larry has other resources than boxingscene articles. Floyd even questioned why all these black fighters are calling him out.

Larry's a longtime Shane fan and a longtime Floyd critic.

I'm sorry, but I find it hysterical that so many people are willing to look past that distinction and actually believe that his on-air rants are fueled by anything other than bias.

It seems like there are two groups when it comes to Floyd:

- Those that worship him, to where anything less than congratulatory is taken as unjustified criticism

- Those that despise him, to where anything remotely positive said in his favor is interpreted as nuthugging, and where even the harshest criticism is viewed as "objective reporting."

[JakeNDaBox]

Jake,

He clearly states that he doesn't believe Mayweather will fight him on his first fight out of retirement-which we all know to be true. Shane already said in other articles that he'd fight Floyd. I'm sure Larry has other resources than boxingscene articles. Floyd even questioned why all these black fighters are calling him out.

Also to expand:

The point was never to suggest that Shane is ducking Floyd. That he wants to next fight Pacquiao, or whether or not he believed Floyd would fight him is NOT the issue.

The issue is that Merchant discredited Floyd-Marquez by insisting that he's further ducking Shane, when - and everyone seems to agree on this - Shane had already taken himself out of the running for Floyd's comeback fight.

It wasn't even official that Floyd was coming back but merely speculated, at the time I interviewed Shane. Marquez wanted the fight. Shane even campaigned for the fight on Marquez' beef. Yet Merchant leaves out that part in insisting that Floyd is still ducking him.

I don't know, I guess the problem is that I dislike THAT version of Merchant as much as most seem to dislike Floyd.

[Walt Liquor]

Larry's a longtime Shane fan and a longtime Floyd critic.

I'm sorry, but I find it hysterical that so many people are willing to look past that distinction and actually believe that his on-air rants are fueled by anything other than bias.

It seems like there are two groups when it comes to Floyd:

- Those that worship him, to where anything less than congratulatory is taken as unjustified criticism

- Those that despise him, to where anything remotely positive said in his favor is interpreted as nuthugging, and where even the harshest criticism is viewed as "objective reporting."

We all know Merchant likes guys who are offensive and fight the toughest fights. He also likes fighter than like to take two to get one. Floyd meets none of those criteria. I just want to see Floyd fight the best and if Larty's needling helps this happen, then I'm all for it.