NSB: Would you rather have Floyd fight the BEST of any weightclass or Just WW?

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

If they weigh more than 5 pounds come Fight Night than No.
Because Historically and even as recent as the 1980's with fighters like SRL,Hearns,Hagler, etc.

You could not come over the weight division limit before fight night.
By 1 Pound let alone 5 pounds...

That way we had fair fights.Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

If fighters cant make 147...
they should fight at 154
If they cant make 154 they should fight at 160...


this is the whole reason we have 17 weights classes instead of the orgianl 8 classes like we used to have

so we can see the best 147 pounders fighting the best 147 pounders.. in the ww division

not the best 147 pounders fighting the best 163 pounder in the ww division

Then i guess almost all fighters from the 80's till now been fighting in the wrong divisions according to HORus

[Horus]

Even Larry Merchant feels this way,

The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size in terms of weight.

Imagine if we had same day weigh in's...

Like Larry Merchent said:
"Ultimately what will happen is that fighters will start to fight at a weight that is more natural for them, instead of cheating the system"

If Fighters knew that they would not have more than a day to replenish thier body, they would not have pretended to be a welterweight instead of a middleweight.

If you are suppose to be a 147 pound fighter you should not be rehydrating to 165 pounds..., Correct????

This tells me that Fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

[Horus]

Then i guess almost all fighters from the 80's till now been fighting in the wrong divisions according to HORus

Fighters from the 80's had same day weigh in's.
so they didnt have this problem

[TysonFury_ATG]

Fighters from the 80's had same day weigh in's.
so they didnt have this problem

So you think your "dream boat" Floyd plans on weighing the same as JMM on the day of the fight?

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

Fighters from the 80's had same day weigh in's.
so they didnt have this problem

you kno what i mean whenever they had the rulle changed to weight in the day before when ever that was changed then i guess almost almost all fighters since then fight in the wrong division. according to u

[Eaner0919]

THE 1 HUGE PROBLEM THAT I SEE ALL FLOYD FANS SHARE IS THIS:

Floyd fans have no problem with floyd fighting Other WW's...
The problem is that People saying he can ONLY fight Welterweights for it to be a legitimate fight and win, when he himself is not really a welterweight compared to the rest of the welterweights...
People say all he has to fight a real WW and nobody else..!!!
thats what make floyd fans feel like you guys are bing hypocritical....

and plus..

no what they are indeed saying is this

if you are indeed going to campaign at welterweight for a fight don't you think it's more of a challenge to fight a true legitimate welterweight than a blown up lightweight?

also he IS a welterweight as of right now. He has weighed 147 or above at the time of his weigh in since Sharmba Mitchell. That Horus makes him a welterweight. What happens POST weigh in is up to the fighter but the RULES (not the Horus code you live by) state that if you weigh in between 147-141 you are indeed a welterweight.

even at this MOST people are giving Floyd latitude if he indeed drops down a few pounds to meet Marquez somewhere in the middle

Floyd has already become lineal WW champion of the world.

a fighter that is no regarded as no more than a Cinderella fighter so while you take great pride in Floyd beating Baldomir because of what he held others see him as the Buster Douglass of 147.

At the end of the day I do not require Mayweather to stay in 1 division and fight every up and comer their is ....Because he has already did that at 130.
when he stayed there for 27 fights.

I dont think anyone questions his campaign at 130 so why bring this up? so you can say he did what he had to do let him do what he wants?

naaaaah

As of Right Now.
I just want to see Mayweather fight Big Names reguardless the weight class.

so if Manny was still at 130 it would be ok to fight him?

from 140-160 i just dont care about him being in 1 division.

thats you but it does not take into account that there are actually weight divisions to abide by

I just want him to enhance his legacy by making history.

History would be if he went and got himself a middleweight title
History would be if he went and became a lineal champion @ 154
History would be if he went and became a lineal champion @ 140

thats fine and dandy but

1. he is making the 135lb lineal champ come up to him rather than meet at a halfway point. Since you said it yourself that he is not a true welter what is the problem with that? Oh thats right JMM called him out well thats fine but realize this Horus

all that does is give Mayweather a bargaining tool nothing more. The TRUE challenge isn't making someone come up to a weight class approximately 10lbs more than his last fight.

the challenge is saying "hey JMM is a good fighter and he is a true challenge I want to fight him at his best without compromsing my best"

fighting JMM at approximately 147 isn't doing that and you know it. You cannot say you want Mayweather to enhance his legacy and then go out and fight a fighter who is not anywhere near his optimal fighting weight when you know 1. Mayweather can meet him at a better weight for JMM and 2. at ~147 this poses no true challenge.

Because at the end of the day every division has a Joshua Clottey and a Miguel Cotto. But every division does not have a Juan Manuel Marquez, or a Manny Pacquiao.

and I want to see Mayweather fights with proven great fighters reguardless the weightclass.

but what good is a JMM at ~147? do you seriously think its any semblance of a challenge?

[Eaner0919]

if a smaller fighter or bigger fighter calls out floyd then that smaller or bigger fighter should go to floyd weight class...dont you agree?

no

again all that does for Floyd is give him all the bargaining power

bargaining power does not equal a challenge and if you are indeed a true Floyd fan (which I am starting to think I am a more realistic Floyd fan than you BY MILES) then you clearly see that he is trying to market himself MORE than challenge himself by electing to not budge off of 147 in a fight with JMM.

like my man Dazed said the best isn't the best when they are fighting out of weight class. We have seen it plenty of times from DLH on down to Morales and Chico

why should this be any different?

the question goes to you now

if Floyd is not a true welter, then why wouldn't YOU want him to fight a JMM at a weight where both are closer to their natural weight then?

stop using the excuse of "well JMM called him out" honestly why wouldn't you want to see him fight at a weight where the challenge is real and not made up by those who think Floyd can do no wrong

[Horus]

no

again all that does for Floyd is give him all the bargaining power

bargaining power does not equal a challenge and if you are indeed a true Floyd fan (which I am starting to think I am a more realistic Floyd fan than you BY MILES) then you clearly see that he is trying to market himself MORE than challenge himself by electing to not budge off of 147 in a fight with JMM.

like my man Dazed said the best isn't the best when they are fighting out of weight class. We have seen it plenty of times from DLH on down to Morales and Chico

why should this be any different?

the question goes to you now

if Floyd is not a true welter, then why wouldn't YOU want him to fight a JMM at a weight where both are closer to their natural weight then?

stop using the excuse of "well JMM called him out" honestly why wouldn't you want to see him fight at a weight where the challenge is real and not made up by those who think Floyd can do no wrong

I am actually leaving my job right now but thanks for taking the time to reply and soon as i get home i will reply to your post.

[Ryn0]

They used to have same day weigh ins, theres a reason they changed it. Fighters drained themselves into the weight ON THE DAY and didn't have the day to rehydrate so they were more serious injuries.

[Ryn0]

no

again all that does for Floyd is give him all the bargaining power

bargaining power does not equal a challenge and if you are indeed a true Floyd fan (which I am starting to think I am a more realistic Floyd fan than you BY MILES) then you clearly see that he is trying to market himself MORE than challenge himself by electing to not budge off of 147 in a fight with JMM.

like my man Dazed said the best isn't the best when they are fighting out of weight class. We have seen it plenty of times from DLH on down to Morales and Chico

why should this be any different?

the question goes to you now

if Floyd is not a true welter, then why wouldn't YOU want him to fight a JMM at a weight where both are closer to their natural weight then?

stop using the excuse of "well JMM called him out" honestly why wouldn't you want to see him fight at a weight where the challenge is real and not made up by those who think Floyd can do no wrong

Horus, hes right. Marquez is not going to perform as well as he could at 140 if the fight was staged at 147.

Mayweather, if you say his natural weight is lesser than 147 can still make 140 or a catchweight. If what you say about no fighters being in their natural weight classes is what you truely believe then you're just being ignorant. 99% of fighters do this. The select few are Mayweather and Hopkins and ofcourse Heavyweights. This is due to Hopkisn and Mayweather being gym**** and constantly keeping themselves within the allotted weight or near enough to it.