Mayweather vs. Marquez on July 18 - Two Pounds Apart?

[boxaholic]

this is a great fight to set up Pac vs Mayweather

this is a great year for boxing

Agreed. So far so good I wish we see a Pavlik vs AA fight later on.

[Xcusemymood]

Mosley is the HOT SHOT now at WW. Everybody counted him out behind Cotto and maragrito because everybody thought he was near done.

He is in a similar position that hopkins is in.

Hopkins whooped Pavlik who is younger. And now most want him to fight Dawson. Hopkins came off the Calzaghe fight where many thought he was done.
Hopkins now would like to get a big money fight to end his career. Dawson doesn't bring in that money.

Same WITH mosley. He is at the end of his Career. He HAD to beat Margarito to set up a SUPER fight for a big pay day.

Actually if nobody noticed.....MAYWEATHER IS THE HOT SHOT AT EVERYWEIGHT.......get over it.

[Dave Rado]

The only reason Oscar won Pernell because of the money. Plain and simple. HBO crew could not shut up about Oscar bating a legend. Late flurries shouldn’t win you fights. When you are beating outboxed and made to look amateurish.

Ike was worse. Ike should have gotten the nod. But what's the point of a Afrian guy who draws nothing be world champion

You're obviously a hater. Both fights were very close. In the case of the Whitaker fight, a few boxing experts scored it to Whitaker but the majority of them scored it to De La Hoya. All of them said that fight was extremely close and could have been scored either way. In the case of the Quartey fight, an even larger proportion of experts scored it narrowly to De La Hoya. In both cases the margins in favour of De La Hoya on the scorecards were a travesty, but only an out and out hater would say the results were.

[Xcusemymood]

That's the thing all Floyd's supporters are missing. No one gave De La Hoya any props for taking that fight, but they think Floyd should get props for wanting to fight JMM at 147, despite the fact they claim Floyd is a natural Jnr Welterweight (which means he would have no trouble making 140), and despite the fact that JMM is a natural Super Featherweight, who has been physically dominated by his opponents even at 135, and relied on his exceptional skills to beat naturally stronger men even at that weight.

Im not giving PBF tons of props for the the fight if it happens at 147. Its a legit tune up though.....and I dont know how Marquez is gonna make more money fighting anyone else so I dont see what the big deal is.

I havent seen 1 person say "This is the biggest fight for Floyds legacy".

Its a fight against a P4P guy after 2 years off. I agree Floyd should and could come down but OBVIOUSLY hes holding the cards.

[Dave Rado]

And Floyd fought the BEST because Floyd fought CHAMPIONS.
And CHAMPIONS wear BELTS...

So you think that for a Light Heavyweight, beating Zsolt Erdei would be a great win? Or for a Jnr Welterweight, beating Andriy Kotelnik? Or for a Jnr Middleweight, beating Sergei Dzindziruk? I suppose you think beating David Diaz was a great win for Pacquiao? Belts make you the champion of a sanctioning body, that's the only thing they make you the champion of, and the rankings of all the sanctioning bodies are corrupt.

If you honestly think Boldomir or even Judah at that time compare with Mosley, Cotto, Clottey or Williams now, then you know nothing about boxing.

[wmute]

Sorry but... yes Judah was indeed the man at 147. (and he also put on a great performance in the 2nd Spinks fight. Remember Spinks has never been stopped at 47, 54 or 60, and he never lost anyting but close fights for a reason). It's of course unfortunate for the WW lineage that Judah's ******ed ass lost to Baldomir...

The comparison to Erdei is out of place, because while Roy was certainly NOT the lineal champ, he at least won EVERY belt of which DM was stripped. making DM claim weaker as the years went by (even though DM beat pretty much everyone Roy beat). Spinks on the other hand had all the 3 major belts, which were split for ridiculous reasons after Baldomir beat Judah. And afterwards no unification took place. The closest thing to that was Cotto-Margarito, which happened after Mayweather retired, but at that point that has nothing to do with Judah's claim to being the man at 147.

Jreck.....YOU are the man!!

I want to know how Judah was not the man at 147. I don't care about Baldomir or Mayweather, but I want to know how Judah was not the man at 147.

[K Larsen]

Wait, what? Is this really happening? Im shocked!

[Dave Rado]

Im not giving PBF tons of props for the the fight if it happens at 147. Its a legit tune up though.....and I dont know how Marquez is gonna make more money fighting anyone else so I dont see what the big deal is.

I havent seen 1 person say "This is the biggest fight for Floyds legacy".

Its a fight against a P4P guy after 2 years off. I agree Floyd should and could come down but OBVIOUSLY hes holding the cards.

You are much more balanced than the majority of Floyd fans on here. But the reason it's a big deal is that all non-biased boxing fans want to see as competitive and as fair a fight as possible, not a fight where one fighter appears to be trying to stack the cards in his favour - because boxing is not only a business, it is also a sport.

And DLH was strongly criticised, including by many of his own fans, for taking the Pac fight, whereas your post is the closest I've seen to a criticism by a Floyd fan of the fact that he's trying to make the fight at 147, and even you don't go as far as actually criticising him.

The irony is that at 140, it would be considered a legacy fight for Floyd, because 140 is reasonably close to JMM's best weight, and JMM is a great fighter. So it's in his own interests, legacy-wise, to make the fight at 140. He's missing a trick here, and his fans (those who aren't worshippers) should be criticising him, IMO, and they aren't.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

the JWW man that had belts at WW and got beat by a bum? that's legendary man

The same JWW bum that beat the shyt out of cotto b4 gettin his nuts crushed then gassing out prior to bein ko'd!

Same as the rest! So plz STFU!

[Dave Rado]

I want to know how Judah was not the man at 147. I don't care about Baldomir or Mayweather, but I want to know how Judah was not the man at 147.

He was the man in the sense that he held the lineal crown and had had one very good win (but also one loss) against Spinks. But as well as losing to Spinks, he'd also lost not that long before moving up, to Tszyu, in devastating fashion; and apart from Spinks, he had not beaten any leading Welterweights. So if by "the man" you mean "the recognised champion", he was, but if by "the man", you mean "generally recognised as the best Welterweight out there", then no, the jury was still out. And his subsequent string of losses against every leading Welterweight he's faced has shown that he was not the best Welterweight out there. He was a genuine lineal champion, but was only looking after the belt, he didn't really own it. A bit like Michael Spinks, when he was the lineal Heavyweight champion, but not the best Heavyweight out there.

Having said that, Mayweather's win over Judah was a very good win, and one of Judah's better performances; but all of the current top 4 Welters >>> Judah.