Mayweather vs. Marquez Negotiations Stalled on Weight

[QUISQUEYA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0cySqDkhL0

Thanks, Torres. I had not seen that presser. K . i saw his in-ring interview.

He said that he would like to fight Money at ciento cuarenta libras o un poco mas.

Si ellos no pueden pelear @ 140 - 143, Marquez tiene que buscar una otra pelea. Pq Mayweather esta firma @ 147.

[hellraiser3816]

Man,

After reading this I can tell most of you have never fought never mind that you have never been in a boxing gym period or the real boxing/MMA/Wrestling worlds.

Why would any body who is the best labeled by their peers, Media, & Fan'NATICS do what some small time person asked them.

It does not Work that way Ask Oscar De La Hoya, Ask Hulk Hohan, Ask Mike Tyson, Ask Donald Trump, Ask P-Diddy,ETC

When you are the Man or you are that IT Person no one can make demands on especially when you hold all the crads.

I know Majority of you would run from Physical Confrontation just by the way you call Money May a ***** & ***** ETC.

Trust Me you won't even fight when you see your friends getting beat up but talk all this TOUGH TALK online that is a CYBER GANGSTA

You call me out best believe if I accept it's my way or no way when I paid the Cost to be in this position Why Would I answer to Some ***** who ain't never Made 5 Million in 1 Fight let alone 4 fights combined ***** take the crumbs that I give you and watch me dump my cigar ashes on your head for 4 rounds before I knock you the hell out

If you want it come get but not on any thing or demand you ask REMEMBER I am the King & you are coming to me not the other way around

[handler000]

Experts don't generally use the phrase "the man". They considered him to be the lineal champion, because he was. But once there were serious challengers in the division they wanted him to defend against them, and he didn't. He was considered to be the best Welterweight, but that was based on his skills, not based on who he had beaten at the weight. Judah and Boldomir are not great scalps. And if your definition of "the man" is simply the lineal title holder, that would have made Boldomir "the man". Boldomir was that only in the strict sense that he held a lineal title, but he was not a dominant champion, and was never the best Welterweight. To prove you're the man at a weight class you have to not only win a title but then defend it against top contenders.

Pavlik looks like facing Abraham later this year, but if he were to duck out of that fight, there would be serious question marks in most experts' minds about whether he really is "the man" - and although he will be favourite to win that fight, he won't be a strong favourite.

And what about Michael Spinks when he spent 18 months ducking Tyson but was still the lineal heavyweight champion during that period. Would you say that Spinks was generally accepted as "the man" at that time?

So let me understand this. If we go by your logic Hatton and Adamek are the only 2 in any weight class who are 'the man' because they fought against top contenders in their weight class? Would the definition of a 'dominant champion' be: a champion who dominates anyone put in front of him?

[Dave Rado]

So let me understand this. If we go by your logic Hatton and Adamek are the only 2 in any weight class who are 'the man' because they fought against top contenders in their weight class? Would the definition of a 'dominant champion' be: a champion who dominates anyone put in front of him?

Pavlik will continue to be considered "the man" provided he defends successfully against Abraham this year, but won't if he ducks him. He''d still be the lineal champion but there would be big question marks about whether he's really "the man" if he did that.

Marquez is considered the man at Lightweight now, but there was a lot of questioning about that until he beat Juan Diaz and Campbell moved up.

Vazquez is considered the man at Jnr Featherweight, because he has defended against several top contenders in his division, and fought a fabulous trilogy with the #1 contender in his division.

Calderon is considered the man at Jnr Flyweight, because he has defended against several top contenders.

[loui_ludwig]

DLH had to compromise on weight when he fought Pac - and he had to compromise on the purse too.

Yes he did so did Pac.

[fdotorres]

Man,

After reading this I can tell most of you have never fought never mind that you have never been in a boxing gym period or the real boxing/MMA/Wrestling worlds.

Why would any body who is the best labeled by their peers, Media, & Fan'NATICS do what some small time person asked them.

It does not Work that way Ask Oscar De La Hoya, Ask Hulk Hohan, Ask Mike Tyson, Ask Donald Trump, Ask P-Diddy,ETC

When you are the Man or you are that IT Person no one can make demands on especially when you hold all the crads.

I know Majority of you would run from Physical Confrontation just by the way you call Money May a ***** & ***** ETC.

Trust Me you won't even fight when you see your friends getting beat up but talk all this TOUGH TALK online that is a CYBER GANGSTA

You call me out best believe if I accept it's my way or no way when I paid the Cost to be in this position Why Would I answer to Some ***** who ain't never Made 5 Million in 1 Fight let alone 4 fights combined ***** take the crumbs that I give you and watch me dump my cigar ashes on your head for 4 rounds before I knock you the hell out

If you want it come get but not on any thing or demand you ask REMEMBER I am the King & you are coming to me not the other way around

another guy that says that same ****ty excuse. who cares if someone hasn't entered a boxing gym? who cares if someone ****s himself during a brawl in real life? that doesn't take away ANYTHING from his opinion if he/she manages to support it.

floyd has fought judah, baldomir, hatton at 147. he isn't the best welter if you judge it by who has he won against.

no, going to the gym doesn't prove **** in here, FACTS do. if you don't have any, save your time and avoid posting some senseless crap that doesn't support anyone's point

[hellraiser3816]

another guy that says that same ****ty excuse. who cares if someone hasn't entered a boxing gym? who cares if someone ****s himself during a brawl in real life? that doesn't take away ANYTHING from his opinion if he/she manages to support it.

floyd has fought judah, baldomir, hatton at 147. he isn't the best welter if you judge it by who has he won against.

no, going to the gym doesn't prove **** in here, FACTS do. if you don't have any, save your time and avoid posting some senseless crap that doesn't support anyone's point

Look this is Fact the GayBo AKA Marquez called out Floyd, Floyd Happens to be 147 not 130,135,140 or 143 which is not a weight class.

Fact Floyd Is # 1 P4p Soon as he anounces that he is Back. Fact Floyd signed to Fight Oscar at 154 oscar came in 169-170 Fact,

Floyd calls the Shot not the Challenger, Fact Floyd made more in 1 Fight than Pacman & Marquez carrers in the RING.

Fat if you have not Fought in real life you are just like the damn kids who where in the stands during a Basketball or Football game A nobody, A spectator, A sideline Johnny .

Dont be mad every body cant fight some people can and others can not

[Fighting Champ]

Look this is Fact the GayBo AKA Marquez called out Floyd, Floyd Happens to be 147 not 130,135,140 or 143 which is not a weight class.

Fact Floyd Is # 1 P4p Soon as he anounces that he is Back. Fact Floyd signed to Fight Oscar at 154 oscar came in 169-170 Fact,

Floyd calls the Shot not the Challenger, Fact Floyd made more in 1 Fight than Pacman & Marquez carrers in the RING.

Fat if you have not Fought in real life you are just like the damn kids who where in the stands during a Basketball or Football game A nobody, A spectator, A sideline Johnny .

Dont be mad every body cant fight some people can and others can not

Juan Manuel Marguez just called out Mayweather to get Manny to fight him for a third time. Marguez has already gone up in weight and if he doesn't want to go up at 147 its better for him.

If Floyd wants to fight at 147 for a tune-up he can fight Carlos Quintana, Collazo or any 147 pounder.

[Dave Rado]

Floyd Happens to be 147

Then he should fight a top Welterweight.

Fact Floyd Is # 1 P4p

No, that's not fact, you obviously don't understand how the P4P rankings work. He may be top of your personal list, but not The Ring's, which is the P4P ranking that counts with anyone who knows anything about boxing, which you obviously don't know anything about.

As for the rest of your post, it's childish posturing.

[Technical_Skill]

Is this **** still going on?

Floyd is gonna take money fights, its pointless talking about floyd vs any of the top welterweights now. The gameplan is obvious, Tune up, see if he can get through that, then Pacman, the biggest fight in the sport, there is no other fight.

Provided they both win, that's the fight.