Does Cotto have the potential to be an ATG?

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  • strugler
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    #51
    ATG for me is to be able to capture a fan's(being a subjective list) imagination either by his resume, skills, longevity, etc.Its like the best among the bests......like the Achilles, Hannibal, Leonides, Alexander of boxing.........

    Cotto has potential just like Williams but its too early to say if their within striking distance
    Last edited by strugler; 04-06-2009, 09:47 PM.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #52
      ATG is when boxers do legendary stuff.

      like move up and fight successfuly from 106 to 147 or winning titles in 5 different weight classes with an undefeated record or defending your title for 20+ defenses against the best the division has to offer, or being a former MW who captures a HW belt.

      what has cotto done that can be categorized as legendary?

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      • RL_GMA
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        #53
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        ATG is when boxers do legendary stuff.

        like move up and fight successfuly from 106 to 147 or winning titles in 5 different weight classes with an undefeated record or defending your title for 20+ defenses against the best the division has to offer, or being a former MW who captures a HW belt.

        what has cotto done that can be categorized as legendary?
        It's all opinionated just like the P4P list. There's Boxing writers who call Hearns an ATG, but he didn't really beat or dominate everyone he fought more than just fighting the big names and being a really great fighter. In the same notion I can call De La Hoya an ATG though he lost a good number of his big fights.

        The way I see it, when we're in our 60s and guys like Cotto, Floyd, Oscar, etc are mentioned, I highly doubt anyone is going to say "nah, he's not an all time great because he didn't do this or do that". Every fighter is always going to have something someone will nitpick at, but at the end of the day they'll be remembered as great fighters. I think that's all you can ask for.
        Last edited by RL_GMA; 04-06-2009, 10:15 PM.

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        • Jim Jeffries
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          #54
          Absolutely. All he has to do is have his corner do a better job of checking his opponents' gloves.

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          • poontango
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            #55
            Originally posted by KingTito
            I think he has the potential. Obviously, he would need to add some more big victories to his record, but I think he can do it. He has some defensive flaws he can work on, but then again, he is an offensive fighter. He has great talent. If he can beat Clottey, Mosley in a rematch and, let's say just for the sake of the argument, that he takes Mayweather. I think he can. Whether he will be considered one is a different story.
            Not if he doesnt avenge his loss to Antonio Margarito.

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            • RL_GMA
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              #56
              Originally posted by poontango
              Not if he doesnt avenge his loss to Antonio Margarito.
              I loved your cameo in Dogma

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              • strugler
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                #57
                Originally posted by poontango
                Not if he doesnt avenge his loss to Antonio Margarito.

                Yes he does..........

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                • jeg77
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  genaro hernandez
                  emanuael augustus
                  diego corrales
                  carlos hernandez
                  jesus chavez
                  jose luis castillo x2

                  9 defenses of the wbc sfw title. A top 3 sfw of all time. Floyd started his career at 130 and has gone all the way up to 154, how can you even compare. Cotto is bigger than floyd, floyd may be a little taller but cotto is the larger man.

                  There is seriously no argument for what you're trying to say.
                  so that makes mayweather an atg?

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                  • Ringlory
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                    #59
                    Manny Pacquiao has defeated bigger names than those on Mayweathers list. Lots of mexicans on the list.

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                    • El Dominicano
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                      #60
                      I don't think so. I'll say HOF. Another thing, fightin for vacant belts ain't gonna help him

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