Hatton Downplays Pacquiao's Win Over De La Hoya

[Dave Rado]

pacs victory was a combination of his brilliance in his tactics and boxing plus delahoyas condition. to say it was it was all because of oscar and anyone can beat him on that night is ******.

in my opinion all the people that picked oscar to win are justifying his defeat by giving excuses. all of you said even a old weight drained oscar would still beat pac. pac proved you all wrong and you dont want to give the credit.

He deserves massive credit. And he got it - he was The Ring's Fighter of the Year, and deservedly so. But in terms of judging how effective he will be against other top fighter above 135, you have to take into account DLH's condition in that fight, as well as Pac's brilliance. The fact remains that Pac hasn't really been properly tested yet above 135.

[Benny Leonard]

what im saying is that making 147 was not a big deal for delahoya because in his prior fight he had to make 150. the fact is he messed up his training by making weight far too early which shrunk his stomach, so he was unable to rehydrate properly.

fighting at 147 was possible for delahoya but he messed up his training, why should pacs victory be degraded because of the fault of his opponent?

Ah, that clears it up. I understand your point now.

It's the level of victory which is what I was talking about. It's a win but against who and where the opponent is at in his career and conditions.

In the end, it's a Win for Pac because he accepted the challenge and prepared better while Oscar fouled up the entire game-plan and arguably fought to long.

The piont people are making, as well as I, was to say if we were to judge Oscar from a scale from 1-10, with 10 being at his best, where was he that night?
How tough was the challenge?


It's the same when we talk about it with other fights/fighters:

Marciano vs. Louis

Holmes vs. Ali
Beribck vs. Ali

Jones Jr. vs. Tarver

Bryd vs. George

Lewis vs. Tyson

Pac's two KO losses

etc. etc. etc.


My point comes on line with Freddie's.

[Benny Leonard]

so we should take your word against the nutritionist and doctors who took care of oskie during training camp?

I know Doctors, Nutritionists, and Athletes as well.
People will give different opinions.

Many examples of Doctors being right and wrong.

What nutritionist will deplete the body of carbs in exchange for a ton of Protein?
Your body needs Carbs, Fats, and Protein. Everything has to be carefully and slowly taken off.
That is, if what was said to be true with what he did.
Do you recall what exactly was said to be done?

In the end, Freddie's words proved right and he backed them up through his experience, experience with Oscar, and history of boxing with other fighters.

[Dave Rado]

c'mon! every one knew hatton was gonna win

See here. - 36% of boxingscene's posters favoured Malignaggi in a pre-fight poll here.

Also a surprising number of fight preview articles favoured Malignaggi, and none of them said they expected it to be as one-sided as it was.

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I know Doctors, Nutritionists, and Athletes as well.
People will give different opinions.

Many examples of Doctors being right and wrong.

What nutritionist will deplete the body of carbs in exchange for a ton of Protein?
Your body needs Carbs, Fats, and Protein. Everything has to be carefully and slowly taken off.
That is, if what was said to be true with what he did.
Do you recall what exactly was said to be done?

In the end, Freddie's words proved right and he backed them up through his experience, experience with Oscar, and history of boxing with other fighters.

Benny, you speak the truth. Great posts.

[Dave Rado]

he messed up his training. but the fact is that their was only 3 pounds weight difference with his last fight and his fight with pac.

is this a new trend in boxing to give sympathy towards the guy that messed up his training and discredit the winner?

No one is giving DLH any sympathy, he fully deserved what happened to him. And Pac fought brilliantly. But if you want to judge Pac's performance in terms of how he would do against other top fighters above 135, you have to take DLH's condition that night into account. Refusal to do so is just silly.

[6Bound]

Lets be serious for a sec. Malignaggi has been done for a while now (probably since the cotto fight) and Hatton still didnt look all the impressive to me against him. Still making the same mistakes like lunging in and opening himself up. I say Pac wins. Probably by making him headbutt the ring-post again..

[Dave Rado]

what im saying is that making 147 was not a big deal for delahoya because in his prior fight he had to make 150. the fact is he messed up his training by making weight far too early which shrunk his stomach, so he was unable to rehydrate properly.

fighting at 147 was possible for delahoya but he messed up his training, why should pacs victory be degraded because of the fault of his opponent?

It shouldn't. Great win. But in terms of judging how Pac will do against any fighter whose stomach is not shrunk, it makes it fairly meaningless.

[Bogler]

I know Doctors, Nutritionists, and Athletes as well.
People will give different opinions.

Many examples of Doctors being right and wrong.

What nutritionist will deplete the body of carbs in exchange for a ton of Protein?
Your body needs Carbs, Fats, and Protein. Everything has to be carefully and slowly taken off.
That is, if what was said to be true with what he did.
Do you recall what exactly was said to be done?

In the end, Freddie's words proved right and he backed them up through his experience, experience with Oscar, and history of boxing with other fighters.

omg you're just digging yourself into deeper **** by explaining more. so are you to say that these doctors/nutritionist in oskie's camp know nothing of the statements you put out?

we all know oskie aint prime, that's why the fight was done! would jmm dream of fighting PRIME oscar at ww? would donaire fight PRIME pacman at lightweight? the out of prime vs the size diff was the premise in the dream match and everybody knows that.

so your examples of ali-holmes, etc are moot and it doesnt apply. they were all at the same weight!

[Pullcounter]

See here. - 36% of boxingscene's posters favoured Malignaggi in a pre-fight poll here.

Also a surprising number of fight preview articles favoured Malignaggi, and none of them said they expected it to be as one-sided as it was.

you can use statistics to prove anything... that just means 36% of of the voters are hatton haters.

plus hatton was coming off a KTFO loss to floyd and a very poor showing against a retired lazcano.

everyone knew that malignaggi didn't have the power to hurt hatton even if he landed the check hook at will.