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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    This is how I see it. If Luis Collazo (147), Juan Urango, Jose Luis Castillo, Kosta Tyzu couldn't KO Hatton & it took Floyd 10 rounds of precision punching at 147 to KO Ricky Hatton, what makes people think that Manny Pacquiao will be the one to totally beat Ricky down in his own division when NO one else could? Hatton has fought bigger & stronger guys than Manny.
    I see the fight going down like this, Manny's going to be using his speed & legs to box around Hatton but Ricky's going to be cutting the ring off & working Pac with the jab. Pac has decent power but don't see him being able to beat up on Ricky for 10 or 8 rounds without a response like he did against the bigger Diaz/De La Hoya. Manny is going to have to brawl in this one & I give the edge to Hatton, he will be too strong for Pacquiao & Hatton speed is underrated. Come fight night Pac won't have too much of an advantage over Ricky.
    Style and the execution of the game plan are the one who will determine the outcome of the game... A triangular reasoning can't be a proof that a boxer will certainly win... If i will also going to follow it, I would also say that if malinaggi who is far less skilled and has a feather fist could last 11 rounds with hatton, how much more pacquiao...

    This fight i think is close if hatton can cut the ring and can take manny's punches... Unfortunately if hatton can't dance with pac's footwork, then hatton will take a beating until pac's punches accumulated and there will be a late round TKO for pac...

    If the former happens then there will be an early KO for hatton if his punches is strong enough for pac... Unfortunately if pacquiao can take them, then it will be a long explosive night full pack with excitement... There will be a close UD or a draw...

    Since pacquiao have the edge or advantage in all aspect except the power, I'll favor pacquiao to win since he has more tools to overcome hatton...

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    • Originally posted by jching View Post
      Hatton was slightly favoured before the Malignaggi fight, with a fair few people pickng Malignaggi. A weight drained Oscar may have beaten Malignaggi, but it would have been a close fight still. Hatton destroyed Malignaggi.

      My excuse on May 2nd should Pacquiao beat Hatton is that Pacquiao was just too good and is the better fighter. There will be no excuses.
      c'mon! every one knew hatton was gonna win

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      • Originally posted by jching View Post
        Hatton was slightly favoured before the Malignaggi fight, with a fair few people pickng Malignaggi. A weight drained Oscar may have beaten Malignaggi, but it would have been a close fight still. Hatton destroyed Malignaggi.

        My excuse on May 2nd should Pacquiao beat Hatton is that Pacquiao was just too good and is the better fighter. There will be no excuses.
        No he didn't. Paulie fought like a ***** and was on the defensive the whole night.

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        • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          c'mon! every one knew hatton was gonna win
          Not really.

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          • Originally posted by {}{}MATADOR{}{} View Post
            I'd say Collazo and Mayweather were harder fights than the dehydrated DLH pac fought.
            without question. You can also add Kostya to that too.

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            • Originally posted by strugler View Post
              What were the results of those fights?
              At what weight did they start their career?
              Which had a better performance at that weight?
              Got no problem with ricky's opinion i just find it amusing.
              1-1. Only loss to the P4P #1.

              And we don't know who had a better performance. Oscar did next to nothing while Collazo and Floyd obviously brought their A games. They didn't just stand still and take shots.

              My turn.

              1)How much did Oscar weigh for the fight?
              2)How long had it been since Oscar fought @ 147?
              3)Does career starting weight matter when the height and reach are close?
              4)Would Oscar have even beaten anyone decent that night?

              There's some questions for ya.

              If you answer honestly, they were both not too impressive. But at least Hatton fought a good and prime fighter at the weight and put up a good fight for the most part, barring the shotty referee.

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              • Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
                No he didn't. Paulie fought like a ***** and was on the defensive the whole night.
                Hard to take that seriously with Hopkins in you're avatar.

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                • Originally posted by JAS_JAS View Post
                  all this **** about "this fighter was not himself during the fight blah blah, he was not 100% blah blah" if thats your excuse then we should say tszu was not himself in that fight, or corrales was not himself when fmj fought him he was weight drained etc etc. pavlik and margarito were not themselves when they fought and lost? or leonard was not himself when he fought duran or duran was not himself when he fought hearns?. is that the excuse of a great boxer or a fan of the sport? a fighter looses because the other guy is the better man that night, they are professionals and earn a lot more than we do and has hired professionals to look out for their well-being before and during the fight. if they screwed up, dont make excuses people. a lose is a lose, they committed a tactical error and they should pay for it and be man enough to admit defeat.
                  That's not what I'm talking about and I don't think Hatton is either.

                  The "L" will always go to the person that loses. He is responsible for evaluated where he is in his life/career. He is responsible for everything that leads up to the fight through preperation and how he fights. This is a given.


                  However, the point is evaluating where Oscar was that night; how good was he compared to his best or better yet, in his prior fight and/or the one before that.

                  You want it to be simple: You win, You lose; no excuses.
                  If it was like that, there would be no need for investigations of anything. There would be no need for an autopsy on a body. No need for a trial.

                  And yes, Pac was the better Man that night, but, we want to know why.


                  All this helps with future fighters who pay attention to learn from history when they get all the details out there and the questions answered, they will learn what to do and not to do or at least what to look out for. As well as fans that want to make a prediction or bet on a fight in the future. Although, only few actually paid attention to history so maybe this one will go by them too. It didn't go by Freddie though.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 03-31-2009, 10:44 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Owlzfan84 View Post
                    Hard to take that seriously with Hopkins in you're avatar.
                    Bernard of late fought defense as part of a gameplan to win the 2nd half of the fight. He did it against Taylor and Calzaghe. Calzaghe it didn't work tho.

                    Paulie naturally fights that way but against Hatton he wasn't even trying to win anymore.

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                    • Originally posted by Addition View Post
                      Not really.
                      yes really! I don't even know one dude on this forum that will come out and said they thought malignaggi was gonna win

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