What does Mayweather have to do to earn everyone's respect?

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  • el malo
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
    Wrong there.
    Im not saying he wont have advantages, Im sayng his body wont allow him to keep his skills if he moves to MW or SMW. i mean, can you imaging Floyd fighting at SWW, but actually make weight at 154 and at fight night 162? Hell be a fat mo fo, slow ass ****. Does that mean, he is not skill? hell naw, but its just his body is of s JWW-WW, jus like Cotto

    Or can you imaging Floyd trying to make 135 right now, hell drain himself, and hell be chinny because of weight drain. Does that mean he is chinny? no, but again Weight will give you that impresion.

    If Cotto goes up to MW and wins a title and his body looks great Ill be surprise. I mean Cotto was 155 pounds when he was 13. So make your own conclusions!!!!!!
    exactly and floyd started fighting at a much lower weight than when he retired so he had more opportunities to fight at more weight classes and for more titles. cotto started out at 135-140 and he's now at 147 but his height wont allow him to go up farther than 147-154. there's a big difference starting out at 135-140 then starting out at were floyd started out, im assuming he started at featherweight

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    • Mojita
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      #42
      Originally posted by Horus
      do you think 13 pounds would affect cottos skill set that much????

      cotto walks around at 170 and you said he was 155 at the age of 13....


      So I agree with you that If Cotto goes up to MW and wins a title Ill be surprise...because that would mean he exceed expectations that boxing fans like your self has put on him....

      but guess what???

      thats what great fighters do...they exceed expectations...
      they do things the real good fighter can not do and would not do.


      like Michael Herron once wrote:

      When you look pass the money, Mayweather and even the former P4P king Roy Jones are actually truer to pure boxing than most big names in the sport. These two fighters are actually marketed for their skill set, not their personalities. De La Hoya on the other hand, sells his Pay-Per-Views based on personality and charm alone, not boxing ability. Is this why we watch boxing, to see personalities joust or skills clash? When you pay to see Floyd, the expectation is that you will see the best skills in boxing. When you pay to see Oscar, there are no expectations, he could win or lose with no penalty. If Mayweather or Jones lose a fight, they lose everything. They are burdened with having to be perfect. The repercussions of Jones' losses to Tarver and Johnson is the perfect example of why Mayweather knows he can't lose. If he were to be defeated, proponents and detractors in this “unforgiving sport” would attempt to destroy everything he has fought for.


      Mayweather knowing this STILL moved up 5 weight classes giving up all physical advantages to prove he was great therefore risking everything he has work for .. just to achive greatness...



      so when is cotto going to decide to get out of his comfort zone and attempt greatness...


      I only hold cotto to this standard because of the standards you hold for mayweather and not even realizing the standards you are giving floyd... cotto cant even meet.
      Dude, seriously.

      When you have something quoted on Mayweather and constantly talk/make threads about him and againest Cotto - with "facts" ; it kinda disturbs.

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      • KnockoutTheFat
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        #43
        He'll get my respect if he hires Norman Stone as a co-trainer. With him and Roger Mayweather in the corner I don't know if any human could withstand that punishment

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        • Horus
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          #44
          Originally posted by elmalo28
          exactly and floyd started fighting at a much lower weight than when he retired so he had more opportunities to fight at more weight classes and for more titles. cotto started out at 135-140 and he's now at 147 but his height wont allow him to go up farther than 147-154. there's a big difference starting out at 135-140 then starting out at were floyd started out, im assuming he started at featherweight
          i guess you never heard of
          roberto duran
          5'7
          66 reach

          started at 135 went all the way up to 168
          5 weight classes


          Cotto
          5'7
          67 reach...
          started at 140

          what is your excuse now?

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            #45
            Marquez will beat him.

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            • el malo
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              #46
              Originally posted by Horus
              i guess you never heard of
              roberto duran
              5'7
              66 reach

              started at 135 went all the way up to 168
              5 weight classes


              Cotto
              5'7
              67 reach...
              started at 140

              what is your excuse now?
              this was about floyd and cotto, but now you mention duran. well you got me with duran. if cotto would've picked his fights right like floyd did(baldomir and hatton at 147, oscar at 154) it could've been a different story. but he was too busy defending his titles at 140-147. its more important to defend your title than pick and choose different title holders and not defend

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              • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                #47
                Originally posted by Horus
                i guess you never heard of
                roberto duran
                5'7
                66 reach

                started at 135 went all the way up to 168
                5 weight classes


                Cotto
                5'7
                67 reach...
                started at 140

                what is your excuse now?
                Did Duran Performed at his level, 154 and up? He did fought in all those weights, but does he performed at his level, how succsesfull was he.

                Cotto can fight at LHW right know if he wants to. That doesnt mean, hell perform at his level, or be any good!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • Horus
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by elmalo28
                  this was about floyd and cotto, but now you mention duran. well you got me with duran. if cotto would've picked his fights right like floyd did(baldomir and hatton at 147, oscar at 154) it could've been a different story. but he was too busy defending his titles at 140-147. its more important to defend your title than pick and choose different title holders and not defend
                  cotto and titles ????

                  LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  What the vacant titles?
                  tell me 1 champion cotto has fought for a title and won?

                  this should be good...

                  lol

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                  • Mojita
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    cotto and titles ????

                    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    What the vacant titles?
                    tell me 1 champion cotto has fought for a title and won?

                    this should be good...

                    lol
                    but then who did he defend his titles againest?

                    exactly. If you win a vacated title and fight the best defending it - so what ?

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                    • Motofan
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                      #50
                      How Floyd would earn my respect (and no, Im not foolish enough to think he wants it) would be to act like himself. Dont "play a character" and act like the bad guy just because he "wants to sell tickets." I think he acts that way because he doesnt know who he is, and because if he says he is playing the badguy role, then he can feel less hurt that people dont accept and cheer for him. I imagine It would hurt more to be so disliked if he were being himself. Just playing "Floyd" and getting booed would suck worse then playing "Money May" and getting booed. So he acts like a WWF guy and pretends they only boo him because he is the "heel." But I respect his ability as a fighter. Regardless of how little I think of the man, he is one of the most talented fighters I have ever seen.

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