So if Suger Ray Robinson quit then whats the big deal about other fighters quitting?

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  • pistol whip
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    #51
    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
    Robinson was WINNING the fight he quit in..

    Chavez and Duran QUIT when they were LOSING.

    Try again mexican.

    Chavez was actually cut in a close fight and Duran is from Panama so why bring him up if I'm mexican.

    Seriously if you could read beyond a 4th grade level maybe you would have noticed that my post was never intended to discredit Mr. Robinson but to infact defend him and everyother fighter that retired on their stool.

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    • Libido Sanchez
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      #52
      Originally posted by TheManchine
      In a sense he did "quit". Yes he may have died if he had continued but he still "quit" according to some because boxers are supposed to fight to the death or whatever.

      Now obviously in the minds of any sensible fight fan Robinson did not quit nor was he a coward but it's something to think about.
      Can you please clarify what your post means? Because it sounds like you're calling Robinson a quitter without actually calling him a quitter.

      Did you watch the clip of the end of the fight? Robinson didn't quit, his body did. He had no choice in the matter, his body shut down. Saying that Robinson quit is like saying someone who dies of a heart attack is a quitter because they were too ***** to live without oxygen and blood.

      And what's there to think about? Please explain.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Libido Sanchez
        Can you please clarify what your post means? Because it sounds like you're calling Robinson a quitter without actually calling him a quitter.

        Did you watch the clip of the end of the fight? Robinson didn't quit, his body did. He had no choice in the matter, his body shut down. Saying that Robinson quit is like saying someone who dies of a heart attack is a quitter because they were too ***** to live without oxygen and blood.

        And what's there to think about? Please explain.


        I think you should focus less on the word and realize that most boxers quit honerably.

        Honor and self preservation is all that matters in the sport of boxing.

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        • El Dominicano
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          #54
          SRR did his all to try and continue but he was too weak and his punch was no hard then Paulie's. That is not quiting, he passed out...so your off, where as Cotto took a serious beating (By the way, I don't blame him for quiting...he gave it his all) and did not want to take more punishment. I'm not gonna jump on Cotto and I NEVER did jump on him for quiting, I respect the effort he put

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            #55
            Originally posted by street bully
            Really? If thats true then Manny must still have major power at 147. To me it looked like Oscar wasn't really hurt until the seventh round came along, and Oscar was being pushed into the corners and brutalized.
            Yes, seriously. It must have been in in interview or something. I will try to find it.

            I do believe Pac carries his power well in the higher weight classes.



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            • pistol whip
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              #56
              Originally posted by El Dominicano
              SRR did his all to try and continue but he was too weak and his punch was no hard then Paulie's. That is not quiting, he passed out...so your off, where as Cotto took a serious beating (By the way, I don't blame him for quiting...he gave it his all) and did not want to take more punishment. I'm not gonna jump on Cotto and I NEVER did jump on him for quiting, I respect the effort he put

              Again man the word quit isn't negative unless you make it a negative thing.

              Fighters can quit with honor too!

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              • Ryn0
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                #57
                If your referring to the Maxim fight, which I am familiar with. He didn't quit, the ref stopped it....

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                • El Dominicano
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  Again man the word quit isn't negative unless you make it a negative thing.

                  Fighters can quit with honor too!
                  I know but SRR doesn't fall into this kind of topic. SRR passed out and gave it his all to try and continue. You can watch it on youtube, he was extremely tired but tried to fight and even the ref passed out. I remember him throwing a punch with very little power and falling to the canvas and didn't the ref help him to his stool? Really, SRR didn't quit...his body gave up on him

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ryn0
                    If your referring to the Maxim fight, which I am familiar with. He didn't quit, the ref stopped it....




                    The story is Ray didn't want to come out for the 14th round. Heat exhaustion was the cause. Where dd you hear he stopped it?



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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Libido Sanchez
                      Can you please clarify what your post means? Because it sounds like you're calling Robinson a quitter without actually calling him a quitter.

                      Did you watch the clip of the end of the fight? Robinson didn't quit, his body did. He had no choice in the matter, his body shut down. Saying that Robinson quit is like saying someone who dies of a heart attack is a quitter because they were too ***** to live without oxygen and blood.

                      And what's there to think about? Please explain.
                      Perhaps I did not make myself clear enough.

                      What I was saying is that there are a lot of people who believe that boxers should "fight to death" and that quitting on your stool is "dishonourable".

                      As an example, Max Kellerman recently stated that he could never consider Israel Vasquez a great fighter because Vasquez quit in a fight.

                      This is a bit silly considering that many of the past greats have quit on their stool, including Roberto Duran, Willie Pep, even the toughest of the toughest the great Sam Langford.

                      Robinson too, had to give up a fight he was winning because he was near death from exhaustion.

                      I hesitate to use the word "quit" in situations such as this because a lot of people think as if it's cowardly. If you want to see a quitter then you should watch Hasim Rahman-Mario Cawley.
                      Last edited by TheGreatA; 03-18-2009, 07:22 PM.

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