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Khan shown he was the better fighter... his youth was too much for Barrera anyway, the cut didn't help admittedly but it has happened now so we gotta let it go, Richloc wont stop talking about it, it was an accidental clash of heads and nobodies fault.
Khan was showing to be better anyway... the cut didn't help but **** happens, Barrera was past it and isn't a shell of the fighter he used to be... Barrera had the right to complain but its a bit harsh to say he was robbed, he was just unfortunate that it wasn't stopped earlier, Khan would of won the fight anyway.Comment
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MAB obviously deserves a rematch.Comment
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I may owe a few apologies here.I have watched the fight again,this time properly/sober,so I am going to attempt to put some perspective on it.
1.The sorry outcome of this fight was an accident that can in no way be attributed to Khan.He definitely looks a much improved fighter,much better than he was before.To all those who question his chin/balls or whatever,that head clash hit him square on his cheekbone and didnt make him flinch,also,I see a lot of people with 2 second gifs of khan taking a punch and wobbling slightly.Shame they werent 5 second gifs as that would have shown that he wasnt the least bit troubled by those punches,well,no more than any other fighter on the planet would have been.
2.Marco Antonio Barerra is an all time great and a true legend of boxing.He was warmly appreciated by the crowd,and I am sure he was also by the people watching on tv.He is,strangely enough,a household name in Britain courtesy of the systematic boxing school he dished out to Britains biggest marquee name of the time,Naseem Hamed,hence the warm applause and appreciation.
3.Dave Parris is a referree who is well respected and someone I have always rated as a good ref,but what the fcuk he was playing at in that fight only he can answer.Even in the last 30 seconds of the first round he was staring intently at the cut on Barerras head.Now Parris has been a ref for many years and there is no way he would have seen many worse cuts than that in all his time in the squared circle.
So,Khan DOES look a much improved fighter,but we can only say that on the basis of four rounds since his KO loss.He has always had the tools,and should have made a much wiser choice of trainer when turning pro.In his defence he was/is very young ,and how wise were we at 18/19 years of age.fair play to him.
What isnt fair play though is the way a great,great fighter like Marco Antonio Barerra gets treated by the people organizing/officiating an event when he decides to take a fight such as this,and grace a boxing ring in our country.Everybody,even Khans fans appreciated him showing up and paid their money,whether they were Barerra fans in this country,and believe me there are many,myself included,and were looking forward to seeing a good test for our country's best prospect for real world title stardom.And for that,as an Englishman,I feel slightly embarrased.Peace.Comment
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It doesn't matter that it was nobodies fault and I also think that robbed is a harsh word, but it is bull**** and people have a right to voice themselves on the bull**** call without being called bitter because this is the kind of **** we dont need in boxing.
Anyway, like I've said before. We only saw just under two minutes of a Barerra without an already fight ending cut that:
-Messed up his rhythm- Having your left eye closed means you have to square your body up more to be able to see your opponents right hands better and also means you have to square your body up while punching e.g. in your normal stance, the bridge of your nose would obscure the vision of your right eye when throwing a proper left hook. The only other option is to throw it with a square body, which removes the power since the power comes from body rotation, or throw it blind and hope for the best (which is actually what Barerra satarted doing).
-Forced him to adopt the losing strategy of trying to outbox/potshot the taller, longer armed opponent in an attempt to minimize the amount of damage the cut everyone including MAB knew would end the fight unless he KO'd Khan inside 4 rounds.
The cut was a bigger factor than a lot of people will admit and I pretty much dont count what happened afterwards as a fight since you can clearly see the big effect it had on Barerra.
He never covered up on the ropes until the exact moment the headclash happened and from that moment he kept on doing it while he tried to protect the cut.
Before it happened:
-Barerra didn't look hopeless at all, obviously not his best, but there's no way you can come to a conclusion he was shot IMO just because someone who is younger and known for their handspeed was looking good and fast.
-He still had snap in his punches.
-He was on his toes skipping around, not plodding like many people have said.
You say you think Khan would've won, but nobody knows that. There are a lot of other factors apart from handspeed that nobody is looking at that someone else could easily say that Khan may not have won.
1.Khan has a habit of losing concentration under pressure. We didn't get a chance to see Khan withstand any pressure because I'm sure as soon as he saw that cut in round one, like most of us he knew it was over already. All you had to do was touch it and blood spewed everywhere (ask the cutman).
2.Khans punches (before the cut) weren't phasing Barerra much, if at all. Even the ones that looked really good. Barerra walked through his flurries a number of times in order to land a shot of his own.
2.Khan's also known to gas a little towards the end of a fight and he's only gone 12 rounds ONE time. If Barerra played his cards right and conserved his energy right, and kept aiming for the body like he did with the hooks he unleashed right at the beginning of the bout, Khan may well have slowed down as the fight went on which would mean that his biggest asset would have been taken away.
3.Khan has a dodgy chin and has been seen to be dizzied by jabs (prescott fight). If Barerra landed one good one at any time, enough to dizzy Khan and let him go to work on him, it could have been the end.
You never know what could happen, so there's no way anyone could really say "Khan would win anyway", ESPECIALLY when he's so chinny.
There are millions of other factors that go on in a boxing ring that determine the way a fight will go, but droves and droves of people are overlooking them all in preference of Khans speed.
If boxing was so predictable we could tell the outcome of a fight after just under two minutes of round (like the people who say "Khan would win cut or no cut because he looked good before it happened"), I doubt I or many of us would love it so much.
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Last edited by GrizzleBoy; 03-17-2009, 05:16 PM.Comment
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Well i'm British but totally and definatively disagree with the result on Saturday, I have friends that were saying after the fight;
"Aww the cut was nothing, Khan would have beat him anyway"
"Barreras crap and past his time"
"Khan was just too good and too fast"
I, however disagree, i dont think the fight would have been anywhere near the same. I'm not saying Khan would have lost the fight, but it would have been a different story altogether.
On the one hand, Barrera did seem a little past his time, not the same as he was, which is obviously understandable with his age.
But Khan just lacks the power and the chin.
He is a showboating boxer and that is it, he has fancy speed and fancy combinations. He lacks real knockout power, and up until Prescott he has really fought nobodies.
Also, someone else posted up that Barrera would have dominated if Khan would have suffered the cut.
I whole-heartedly agree with this, Barrera, despite suffering that cut, was still stood and hardly shook after Khan landed punch after punch more or less flush with Barrera's face.
If the roles were reversed, it would not have got to the fifth round because either the ref/doctor would have stopped the fight for Khan, or Barrera would have knocked him out.
Plain and simple.
Khan has not proved anything yet.Comment
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Old man got his ass whooped. LET IT GO.Comment
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Warren himself would have grabbed the towel from Roach's hands and thrown it in the ring had Amir been cut that badly.
And props on giving Barerra his warrior props for suffering with a cut like that (that Khan was punching) for four rounds more than anyone else in the world would have had to.
That deserves more credit than Khans, to quote the daily telegraph "first steps to greatness" win tbh.Comment
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