Why Won't Anyone Admit Barrera Was Robbed!?

[Mayorga-Rules]

From what i saw Khan looked great in this fight, he was outspeeding Barrera. Too bad the cut ended the fight. Khan was maybe going to get a UD, his defense improved a lot.

I don't see the interest of a rematch in a marketing point of view. Barrera should retire, he had too many battles before( vs Morales), that uses a lot.

[sunny31]

Another point which I don't think has been discussed is, what if barrera was actually really on top in the fight and was beating khan in those early rounds, and if the ref/doctor stopped it before the end of the 4th...people would say they bailed khan out. I genuinely think they tried to give the corner every chance of stopping the blood especially as it was high on his head, I know the cut was horrendous, but at the start of each round apart from the 5th, the corner somewhat stemmed the flow of blood, but punches would open it back up. Also they did look at it during the 4th round which I admit was probably too late, and he was given a chance to call it a night but Barrera himself decided to continue. The whole thing was pretty unfortunate for both fighters, I think these conspiracy theories and biased officiating are pretty ******.

Just for the record Frank Warren was imploring Dave Paris to look at the cut in the 4th round also which again would have made it a no-contest, not just in the 5th round

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Amir Khan would have won anyway, imo

[GrizzleBoy]

Another point which I don't think has been discussed is, what if barrera was actually really on top in the fight and was beating khan in those early rounds, and if the ref/doctor stopped it before the end of the 4th...people would say they bailed khan out. I genuinely think they tried to give the corner every chance of stopping the blood especially as it was high on his head, I know the cut was horrendous, but at the start of each round apart from the 5th, the corner somewhat stemmed the flow of blood, but punches would open it back up. Also they did look at it during the 4th round which I admit was probably too late, and he was given a chance to call it a night but Barrera himself decided to continue. The whole thing was pretty unfortunate for both fighters, I think these conspiracy theories and biased officiating are pretty ******.

Just for the record Frank Warren was imploring Dave Paris to look at the cut in the 4th round also which again would have made it a no-contest, not just in the 5th round

There's no way any experienced doc should've let the fight continue.

He's the to protect the boxer, end of.

If you have a cut that bad, it doesn't matter what you say, it's the docs job to stop you getting seriously damaged and he didn't do his job.

If the boxer had more of a say than the doc, there would be no such thing as getting "stopped on cuts".

If Barerra was on top of Khan, then the cut wouldn't be getting adgitated so much by either Khans gloves with punches or Barerras gloves while blocking and would be easier to deal with.

The cut wasn't closing, it was the cutmans mixture stopping the blood flow and everytime it got rubbed away, the blood spilled out again.

It stinks that it wasn't looked at again for another three rounds when the doc already saw the severity of it and it stinks even harder that after inspecting it again, he didn't stop the fight till after the NC rule was void.

[sunny31]

There's no way any experienced doc should've let the fight continue.

He's the to protect the boxer, end of.

If you have a cut that bad, it doesn't matter what you say, it's the docs job to stop you getting seriously damaged and he didn't do his job.

If the boxer had more of a say than the doc, there would be no such thing as getting "stopped on cuts".

If Barerra was on top of Khan, then the cut wouldn't be getting adgitated so much by either Khans gloves with punches or Barerras gloves while blocking and would be easier to deal with.

The cut wasn't closing, it was the cutmans mixture stopping the blood flow and everytime it got rubbed away, the blood spilled out again.

It stinks that it wasn't looked at again for another three rounds when the doc already saw the severity of it and it stinks even harder that after inspecting it again, he didn't stop the fight till after the NC rule was void.

Yeah well you have kind of agreed with me but not acknowledged the point I was making, if he had been on top and hurting khan he would have been furious if it was stopped before the 5th, so there is basically 2 sides to the coin, fighters have had cuts with similar vision impairment and gone on to win fights, not necessarily as big but definitely in worse places and I never said the cut was closing just that they were able to stem the flow somewhat, fact of the matter is Khan was fighting a good fight and should be given credit, im not saying you aren't but some people on this thread are living in cookoo land because they are a fan of Barrera and refuse to give credit where its due, I am a fan of both fighters but a huge Barrera fan and have met on him on two occasions and thought he was a cool guy but I know what I saw in this fight.

Also you can lip read the conversation a little between the doctor and Barrera in the 4th, and I think...and stress THINK Barrera asked for one more round, and once the fight started again he came out swinging. Like I said it was unfortunate the cut without a shadow of a doubt affected Barrera, but Khan did not let him into the fight and I think people should acknowledge this. Saying this I do think the doctor should have overruled and stopped the fight in the 4th, but I also don't think the doctor was corrupt or influenced by anyone just think he made a judgment call and got it wrong

[GrizzleBoy]

Yeah well you have kind of agreed with me but not acknowledged the point I was making, if he had been on top and hurting khan he would have been furious if it was stopped before the 5th, so there is basically 2 sides to the coin, fighters have had cuts with similar vision impairment and gone on to win fights, not necessarily as big but definitely in worse places and I never said the cut was closing just that they were able to stem the flow somewhat, fact of the matter is Khan was fighting a good fight and should be given credit, im not saying you aren't but some people on this thread are living in cookoo land because they are a fan of Barrera and refuse to give credit where its due, I am a fan of both fighters but a huge Barrera fan and have met on him on two occasions and thought he was a cool guy but I know what I saw in this fight.

Also you can lip read the conversation a little between the doctor and Barrera in the 4th, and I think...and stress THINK Barrera asked for one more round, and once the fight started again he came out swinging. Like I said it was unfortunate the cut without a shadow of a doubt affected Barrera, but Khan did not let him into the fight and I think people should acknowledge this. Saying this I do think the doctor should have overruled and stopped the fight in the 4th, but I also don't think the doctor was corrupt or influenced by anyone just think he made a judgment call and got it wrong

Yes, but in this particular situation, Barerra WASN'T on top of Khan and started getting battered in every round after the cut.

That's all they need to see to know the fight should stop.

If he was ****in Khan up to the point where it looked like Barerra was gonna stop him soon after the cut, they would have more reason to let it continue because they're giving the fighter benefit of the doubt. That wouldn't look like such bull****.

As the rounds go on and it's QUITE evident that Barerra isn't going to stop Khan with that cut, there's no reason to let it go on. There's no "Barerra is in a good position, lets see where he goes with it". There's none of that so really the discussion of what could happen if Barerra was winning is kinda pointless. They didn't have that "benefit of the doubt" reason to let it continue and that's why so many people are calling BS.

We can discuss what COULD have happened had Barerra been on top, and yes the circumstances for stoppage WOULD have been different, but that isn't what happened and therefore the fight should have been stopped.

[AssasinKing]

I'm a Khan fan and think he isn't really given credit for anything he does, i can understand why people dont give him much credit tho...i mean he hasnt faught any amazing fighter and the last 2 (prescott and barrera) he was pretty unlucky with both

I mean prescott jst knocked him the fk out....but u could see he wasnt boxing at all....he just ran out as if hes some huge puncher because he knocked a few lower ranked people out, and he completely forgot prescott had a 90+% KO rate...i mean even his jab made his legs go and he still carried on trying to get a knockout on prescott.

But it was the best thing that could of happened to him, hes now training with Freddy Roach....sparring with manny (who better could you spar with?) and i mean people keep saying khan is rubbish bla bla...but if he was ...why the fk would the best trainer in the world take him under his wing and say "He will be the next champion" bit of a bold statement unless he is that confident in khan

the barrera fight was unlucky for both..i mean i was pissed cos i could see from the start khan was gonna be all over barrera i mean it was the first round n khan was all over him ...MAB landed a few decent punches but khan wobbled him a few times even....imagien what it would of been like in the later stages...people are talking as if MAB would have got better but the fact is he would of got even more tired....

the reason it was unlucky for khan is because now people have an excuse for marco...dont get me wrong the cut was horrific, and yes it did effect his vision in the right eye...but i dont think it would of changed the outcome...if anything id say it stopped MAB from being KO'd....i really think khan was going to be way to much for him in the later rounds.

Khan now needs to get a fight where people can really see him tested and fight somone ranked highley in lightweight....a prescott rematch would be good...but even tho i think khan will go on to be champion one day...i just dont think hes ready for prescott...IMO i think prescott is one of the best lightweights out there.

[BOLLOCKS]

I'm a Khan fan

I've read enough.

[GrizzleBoy]

I'm a Khan fan and think he isn't really given credit for anything he does, i can understand why people dont give him much credit tho...i mean he hasnt faught any amazing fighter and the last 2 (prescott and barrera) he was pretty unlucky with both

I mean prescott jst knocked him the fk out....but u could see he wasnt boxing at all....he just ran out as if hes some huge puncher because he knocked a few lower ranked people out, and he completely forgot prescott had a 90+% KO rate...i mean even his jab made his legs go and he still carried on trying to get a knockout on prescott.

But it was the best thing that could of happened to him, hes now training with Freddy Roach....sparring with manny (who better could you spar with?) and i mean people keep saying khan is rubbish bla bla...but if he was ...why the fk would the best trainer in the world take him under his wing and say "He will be the next champion" bit of a bold statement unless he is that confident in khan

the barrera fight was unlucky for both..i mean i was pissed cos i could see from the start khan was gonna be all over barrera i mean it was the first round n khan was all over him ...MAB landed a few decent punches but khan wobbled him a few times even....imagien what it would of been like in the later stages...people are talking as if MAB would have got better but the fact is he would of got even more tired....

the reason it was unlucky for khan is because now people have an excuse for marco...dont get me wrong the cut was horrific, and yes it did effect his vision in the right eye...but i dont think it would of changed the outcome...if anything id say it stopped MAB from being KO'd....i really think khan was going to be way to much for him in the later rounds.

Khan now needs to get a fight where people can really see him tested and fight somone ranked highley in lightweight....a prescott rematch would be good...but even tho i think khan will go on to be champion one day...i just dont think hes ready for prescott...IMO i think prescott is one of the best lightweights out there.

1.Please show me where Khan wobbled Barerra. Seriously.

2.Khan didn't come out like a powerpuncher, he threw one powerpunch before he was KO'd everything else was Jabs.

3.I can't be bothered to find a number three, but I'm almost 100% there is one lol.

4.I'll bet you had never heard of Breidis Prescott until Khan fought him.

[AssasinKing]

1.Please show me where Khan wobbled Barerra. Seriously.

2.Khan didn't come out like a powerpuncher, he threw one powerpunch before he was KO'd everything else was Jabs.

3.I can't be bothered to find a number three, but I'm almost 100% there is one lol.

4.I'll bet you had never heard of Breidis Prescott until Khan fought him.

He wobbled him a few times in the fight, obviously not to the point where someone is about to fall over but i mean this was the opening rounds it would have only of got worse for barrera....and im sure he did in the first round as well....and the way khan came out my point was, he was acting as if he has great defence and doesnt have a weak chin, like going toe to toe with a huge puncher.... and your right i wasnt aware of prescott but when i heard the match up i started researching bout him, wasnt much to find tho. And what i should of said was i think he will be one of the best lightweights....