James Toney + Dedication = ?

[andrewcuff]

I remember when they were so close to making that fight happen after Toney battered Jirov. Aww man, that would have been incredible. Honestly though, I think Toney would've won handily but it would've been a war.

How about at 160/168 if Toney had been banned from McDonalds?

[IMDAZED]

How about at 160/168 if Toney had been banned from McDonalds?

I don't know. Toney was so inconsistent at those weights while Hopkins was a machine, fight in and fight out. B-Hop was an absolute animal who mauled people with quick hands, solid pop and excellent boxing skills. Plus he was hard as hell to hit--and when you did hit him, he'd simply sneer. I don't think Toney could've beaten a prime Hopkins at middle but I'd give him the edge at 168.

[Golden Boy 360]

Theres always these what if questions in boxing

i say never think about these questions.... its their fault if they didnt keep their mind straight or got lazy or just werent skilled enough

[big paulie]

Dave Tiberi ****ed Toney up properly when he was supposedly in his 'prime'

[IMDAZED]

Dave Tiberi ****ed Toney up properly when he was supposedly in his 'prime'

****ed him up? Ehh...NO.

But that was the kind of performance I'm referring to; the disinterest, unmotivated Toney that made him one of the most frustrating fighters in the world.

[street bully]

A James Toney with the discipline and physique of Hopkins would have been something else. He probably would have beaten all of the fighter of his era from MW up to cruiserweight minus Roy Jones. Toney vs Hopkins is a fight that I would have loved to see. Be that as it may: dedication+Toney= multiple weight class domination.

[big paulie]

****ed him up? Ehh...NO.

But that was the kind of performance I'm referring to; the disinterest, unmotivated Toney that made him one of the most frustrating fighters in the world.

I'd say so, Tiberi didnt let up the whole night and had Toney out on his feet at one point, one of the worst decisions. Ever.

[street bully]

How about at 160/168 if Toney had been banned from McDonalds?

The thing about James Toney, is that somtimes he would look like a ****ing animal and destroy the best fighters in his division, then a few months later he would struggle with a C level fighter that he should have shut out. He was very inconsistent, but in his case that could be blamed on his work ethic, and sneaking whoppers into his training camp. Against Hopkins though, it would be safe to say that Toney would take his preperations seriously, but I think at 160 he would still have lost to Hopkins. At 168 I think Toney would have won.

[-Antonio-]

He would have won titles at 175 and Heavyweight. He'd be a lot more wealthy. He'd be known as one of the best fighters to ever lace 'em, if he's not already.

[-Antonio-]

Theres always these what if questions in boxing

i say never think about these questions.... its their fault if they didnt keep their mind straight or got lazy or just werent skilled enough

This is a legitimate what if though. Because it's clear that in Toney's best performances, he looked his best physically. While in his poor performances his body reflected that.